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Posted on 04/18/2010 9:49:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne
I seriously wonder about some FReepers, sometimes. Any other person accused of a crime would be defended by every FReeper as being innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. I've seen whole threads written by men who have been accused of child abuse by ex-wives out to deny them their visitation rights or to wrest more money out of them. These men are rightly indignant, and furious about the unjust accusations that cannot be proven but are never withdrawn.
Yet where are those FReepers when a PRIEST is accused? Where is the presumption of innocence? Suddenly, every accusation becomes a verdict, and not only the accused but his entire organization and all its adherents are held responsible.
I can only wonder what some of these so-called conservatives (who so faithfully defend the Constitution) would do, if THEY were the ones accused! It is a nightmare for any man -- all of you know how even the accusation stains the man forever, even if it is proven false!
Not only that, many here assert that the problems of 30, 40 and even 50 years ago must be tried in the media TODAY!
Remember the Duke rape case? There are more similarities than differences here. The priests are accused, nifonged, and instead of being defended, they are vilified!
What other man of you could stand under the weight of such an accusation trumpeted by the press, and come out whole? None! And such accusations made, LONG after the statute of limitations has passed, sometimes even after the accused is dead and buried for YEARS -- are YOU one of those who automatically, reflexively, spitefully, and gleefully act as judge, jury, and executioner?
Women! What if it were YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BROTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR UNCLE, YOUR SON who was accused? Wouldn't you want the best defense possible? Wouldn't YOU believe in their innocence? Wouldn't YOU help protect your loved ones as much as possible? And yet, YOU JUDGE THE CHURCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU WOULD DO?
Shame! Vast shame! On all who have sinned against the innocent!
Interesting point.
So something did precede the Triune God? Hmmm...
Still wrong, again. What sect is it that teaches you so poorly?
Part of the whole confessional system is based on a Roman Catholic mistranslation of the Greek.
Repent was translated into “do penance” and we know have Catholics in closets spilling their guts to Priests.
At least one of the people “bashing” St. Paul was born to a Jewish woman.
Thank you for your encouragements, dear sister in Christ!
So why are you bashing Jews?
JA, didn’t you know that your well meaning thread would just become a “Bash the Catholic Church” opportunity?
Well, I had hope.
Here is what the Catechism REALLY teaches rather than the lies spread by the ignorant
Oh, please. This travesty from the RCC catechism has been posted so many times I practically know it by heart.
From Vatican.va...
2677 - Holy Mary, Mother of God: With Elizabeth we marvel, "And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?"36 Because she gives us Jesus, her son, Mary is Mother of God and our mother; we can entrust all our cares and petitions to her: she prays for us as she prayed for herself: "Let it be to me according to your word."37 By entrusting ourselves to her prayer, we abandon ourselves to the will of God together with her: "Thy will be done." Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death: By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the "Mother of Mercy," the All-Holy One. We give ourselves over to her now, in the Today of our lives. And our trust broadens further, already at the present moment, to surrender "the hour of our death" wholly to her care. May she be there as she was at her son's death on the cross. May she welcome us as our mother at the hour of our passing38 to lead us to her son, Jesus, in paradise.
Do you people even read this stuff? Or just swallow it whole?
Mary is not the person you should be giving yourself over to nor wholly surrendering yourself to at the hour of your death.
No one will lead you to Jesus when you die. He will be there the instant your life is finished.
This is the kind of lie that kills faith and reason and salvation. Repent of it.
Name another Jew I have "bashed."
We always do.
But self-righteousness will always trump any reasonable logic.
911 truthers and those who hate the Catholic Church, will never let facts get in the way of their reality.
And here, I’ll say it because it’s never said to us....Thank you for your post, Dear Sister in Christ.
Paul
Thank you for your insights, dear sister in Christ! ;-D
Are you calling me a liar or attempting to read my mind?
I know the reason the language of the Church was Latin as to 99.99% of all biblical and historical scholars. Having studied Latin and German as well as Church history in a "classic education" I know full well that theological constructs lend themselves better to some languages than others. It is the same reason that Chopin and Mozart can't be appreciated when played on a kazoo.
I do adore you JA!!!!
And popes flogging themselves in those same closets.
In fact, there's a lot of priests in closets.
He is the only one I have “bashed,” to my knowledge.
Oh, of course, I did say I wasn’t that wild about Jeremiah. If that’s bashing, well, I’m not that wild about the presbyterians, here, either. But since they could never qualify as Jews, I guess that doesn’t count.
FOFLOL!!!
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