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Posted on 04/18/2010 9:49:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne
I seriously wonder about some FReepers, sometimes. Any other person accused of a crime would be defended by every FReeper as being innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. I've seen whole threads written by men who have been accused of child abuse by ex-wives out to deny them their visitation rights or to wrest more money out of them. These men are rightly indignant, and furious about the unjust accusations that cannot be proven but are never withdrawn.
Yet where are those FReepers when a PRIEST is accused? Where is the presumption of innocence? Suddenly, every accusation becomes a verdict, and not only the accused but his entire organization and all its adherents are held responsible.
I can only wonder what some of these so-called conservatives (who so faithfully defend the Constitution) would do, if THEY were the ones accused! It is a nightmare for any man -- all of you know how even the accusation stains the man forever, even if it is proven false!
Not only that, many here assert that the problems of 30, 40 and even 50 years ago must be tried in the media TODAY!
Remember the Duke rape case? There are more similarities than differences here. The priests are accused, nifonged, and instead of being defended, they are vilified!
What other man of you could stand under the weight of such an accusation trumpeted by the press, and come out whole? None! And such accusations made, LONG after the statute of limitations has passed, sometimes even after the accused is dead and buried for YEARS -- are YOU one of those who automatically, reflexively, spitefully, and gleefully act as judge, jury, and executioner?
Women! What if it were YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BROTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR UNCLE, YOUR SON who was accused? Wouldn't you want the best defense possible? Wouldn't YOU believe in their innocence? Wouldn't YOU help protect your loved ones as much as possible? And yet, YOU JUDGE THE CHURCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU WOULD DO?
Shame! Vast shame! On all who have sinned against the innocent!
***Yes, and that’s the only verse I can find where Paul gives a benediction like that.***
The statement was made that there are no Trinitarian formulations in Paul’s writings.
I provided one.
The thesis is therefore debunked.
Paul is not a Jehovah’s Witness or Mormon, which is what some FRoman Catholics around here make him out to be.
And does the work of the Holy Spirit?????
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9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. ‘No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.’
They refer to her as the Mother of God as well, with all the implications that that brings to the table.
I provided one.
The thesis is therefore debunked.
All it takes is one.
You are exactly correct.
That is a perfect example of Paul's knowledge of the Trinity. Amen!
God the Father elects.
God the Son redeems.
God the Holy Spirit sanctifies.
Three persons; one God.
Just as Paul tells us in Scripture.
***Are these RCs even aware they are exhibiting their almost total lack of knowledge of the Scriptures?***
Scriptures?!?
They are showing a total lack of knowledge of the Christian faith!
(I just have to add the exclamation point since I can't convey effectively the look on my face as I type those words.)
Better.
I learned German in order to read church records pertaining to my Moravian and Dutch Reformed ancestors. These records were from the 15th, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries, both in the British colonies of Pennsylvania and North Carolina, and earlier in the Palatinate, Pfalz, Alsace, Canton Basel, Wurms and der Schwarzwald. I had no difficulty in reading these records at all, and I was taught Hoch-Deutsch.
It was more of a standardization of dialect than anything else, which coalesced as a result of Martin Luther’s German Bible, much as Tyndale and the subsequent and in many ways derived King James Version coalesced and standardized English.
Yep. Words mean something. To use the phrase "Mother of God" implies Mary preceded Jesus Christ when, in fact, nothing preceded the Triune God.
God willing, Roman Catholic will realize their religion has become a matriarchy, rather than a patriarchy, just like so many pagan religions.
Thanks for that knowledge. FR is a great place to learn.
And according to the RCC catechism, Roman Catholics are to entrust themselves to Mary at the hour of their death!Here is what the Catechism REALLY teaches rather than the lies spread by the ignorant:
"I BELIEVE IN LIFE EVERLASTING"
1020 The Christian who unites his own death to that of Jesus views it as a step towards him and an entrance into everlasting life. When the Church for the last time speaks Christ's words of pardon and absolution over the dying Christian, seals him for the last time with a strengthening anointing, and gives him Christ in viaticum as nourishment for the journey, she speaks with gentle assurance:Go forth, Christian soul, from this world in the name of God the almighty Father, who created you, in the name of Jesus Christ, the Son of the living God, who suffered for you, in the name of the Holy Spirit, who was poured out upon you. Go forth, faithful Christian! May you live in peace this day, may your home be with God in Zion, with Mary, the virgin Mother of God, with Joseph, and all the angels and saints. . . . May you return to [your Creator] who formed you from the dust of the earth. May holy Mary, the angels, and all the saints come to meet you as you go forth from this life. . . . May you see your Redeemer face to face.
The earliest references to the Old German or High German written language that I can find is the 6th century. Unless you're talking about Old Futhark dialect, which was hardly German. Unless you'd care to clarify?
You may note how your ignorance is corrected in my last post. Will you now cease that particular claim since the truth is posted directly from the Vatican website for you to see? Or will you continue to spread falsehoods knowing that they are false?
And to what end? Does their dissing of Paul serve Christianity?
No, Just like their dissing of Scripture in general.
They follow men, not the words of God.
“To use the phrase “Mother of God” implies Mary preceded Jesus Christ when, in fact, nothing preceded the Triune God.”
Nope, wrong again sister. What odd sect teaches you these heretical falsehoods?
It might look that way to those whose knowledge of scripture is erroneous.
Can’t help but wonder if those who bash Paul are anti-Semites.
After all, early Jewish converts to Christianity considered themselves Jewish.
It's foolish to take that extra step when the original texts are available to use.
Great point!
Catholics claim fidelity to the Bible and their church executed someone who adhered to that so that the common man could read it himself.
Rome has claimed all sorts of things and then executed those who didn't agree with them.
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