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Obama’s Healthcare Microchip: The “Mark?”
RaptureReady.com ^ | Undated | Joseph Chambers

Posted on 04/07/2010 2:25:08 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

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To: GiovannaNicoletta

The bill does not contain any requirement (or provision for) the implantation of RFID chips, and the quoted section certainly does not do so. The cited section creates a database of information regarding Class III medical devices and certain Class II medical devices. Class II and Class III denote broad types of medical devices. Class III devices are things that need premarket approval before they can be sold, as well as “special controls” (which can include things like labelling requirements, postmarket observation, etc). Class II devices do not need premarket approval, but do need the “special controls.” These classifications are similar to classification of drugs (i.e., OTC, prescription, hospital-only, etc).

This section has absolutely nothing to do with RFID chips.


21 posted on 04/07/2010 2:45:20 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: LALALAW
That’s too bad about the cancer link. I have long thought that the answer to immigration reform was the RFID microchip. Secure borders and a way to track “guest workers.” Then I would be all for some form of regularization to get everyone on the same playing field—no under ground economy. Couple flat tax with this type of immigration reform and I think you have something.

I think the problem with something like that is eventually the government would mandate that ALL workers have implanted chips. It's what the government does at every turn. They introduce a "simple", "helpful", and "uncontroversial" plan then expands it later to a size that was never initially intended.

22 posted on 04/07/2010 2:46:45 PM PDT by camerongood210
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
Almost all hospitals have Radio Frequency monitors at all doors and exits from the birthing floor.

Babies are fitted with a RF ankle bracelet that has their ID and medical data.

Alarm goes off if the baby is transported out from any of the maternity exit doors without authorization.

Idea is to prevent "baby snatching"

Doesn't take much imagination to see this could be replaced by an implanted chip

Its just for the "safety of the babies"

23 posted on 04/07/2010 2:48:08 PM PDT by spokeshave (They'll get my false teeth when they pry them from my sister's cold, dead mouth)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Not that the chip is a good idea, but the Mark of the Beast in Revelation has absolutely nothing to do with it. The Beast of Revelation was the Roman emperor/Nero. The mark of the Beast is the opposite of God’s “mark” that is placed on the foreheads of believers. By clinging to their faith, early Christians separated themselves from apostate Jews and therefore did not fall under the Jews’ exemption from emperor worship, resulting in numerous social sanctions, including those against buying and selling.

Christian conservatives would be far more useful without the unbiblical, world-negating rapture doctrine.


24 posted on 04/07/2010 2:50:36 PM PDT by OttoWetzel
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

An excellent article explaining why the Mark of the Beast in Revelation has nothing to do with us today:

http://www.tektonics.org/esch/revdate.html.


25 posted on 04/07/2010 2:50:36 PM PDT by OttoWetzel
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To: mjp
Yep, if Obama confirms a seven-year peace treaty with Israel and the nations, then he's the guy.

And there are more and more prophecy students who do believe that this treaty will be imposed on Israel.

I got a tweet from Bibireport today that, "Sources in US administration: Netanyahu can meet Obama only if he gives positive answers to his demands" (via Yediot)

So I can definitely see how a "peace pact" could be forced on Israel- and I don't even believe, at this point, that Obama is the Antichrist. However, Obama is doing a wonderful job laying the groundwork for whoever the AC will turn out to be.

26 posted on 04/07/2010 2:52:13 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Lera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0vZigwn09I

Step by step instructions.


27 posted on 04/07/2010 2:52:32 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (Is life so dear, or peace so sweet..........)
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To: OttoWetzel
The Beast of Revelation was the Roman emperor/Nero.

Not possible. God said that both the Antichrist and the False Prophet will be thrown alive into the Lake of Fire. Nero killed himself. Neither Nero nor anybody else in the Old Roman Empire was the Antichrist.

Christian conservatives would be far more useful without the unbiblical, world-negating rapture doctrine.

Yawn. It's not there only for people who have to discard all the Scripture which details the event of the Rapture in order to try to force the Bible into justifying their unBiblical beliefs.

28 posted on 04/07/2010 2:58:10 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

This should be a campaign issue in 2010 & 2012.


29 posted on 04/07/2010 3:16:51 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
It should be if we even have elections then.

I sincerely believe that after the socialists succeed in legalizing all 30 million illegal aliens or however many there are, and getting them registered to vote, we're finished.

I really hope I'm wrong.

30 posted on 04/07/2010 3:19:13 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: Mr. Know It All

they have said repeatedly that this bill will ensure that EVERYONE receives medical care! So why the need to implant chips?


31 posted on 04/07/2010 3:21:39 PM PDT by a real Sheila (3-21-10 The first shot of the 2nd American Revolution!)
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To: poobear

I think there will be hospital ships offshore like the gambling ships for people to get real healthcare. I will not take the chip. Have no doubt it is planned just like the VAT tax. Only I hope the people refuse it all. If not it is over for the USA.


32 posted on 04/07/2010 3:25:09 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (i)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
This certainly suggests that every person living within our borders will eventually be assigned this radioactive chip.

The RFID chip is radio activated, NOT radioactive. It's bad enough as it is, there is no reason to make it even worse.

33 posted on 04/07/2010 3:50:28 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

This already happening in Norway...they implant a chip into psychotic, sucidal people so the doctors can keep track of them...so what’s the next step?


34 posted on 04/07/2010 3:51:24 PM PDT by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

As a young Christian in the 1970’s I got caught up on reading all of those end-times books in the Bible Book stores. The book captivating me the most, being Hal Lindsey’s book “The late great Planet Earth”. The books were fascinating at the time, I could hardly put them down - but the predictions even with the Biblical reference also seemed a little far fetched at the time. Yea, it could all happen, but it would take a hundred years or more in the future, I thought.

CASHLESS SOCIETY?
Those end-time book writers said we would someday be able to purchase about anything with the swipe of the card, even a telephone call, a vending machine and a parking lot? A stretch in the 1970’s, but now I hardly ever carry cash or coin anymore. Other that the coffee kitty at work I can go weeks without coin or paper money. To be completely cut off from it would be no big deal. As long as the card scanner worked. Oh and did I mention you could use the card all over the World? How possible was that in 1972? Now we are having China, the EU, and others saying we need to move to a global currency, and now for the first time ever – we are listening. Which brings me to the next topic.

ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT?
We have come along way on this one since Hal Lindsey’s book, haven’t we? Hard to visualize in the 1970’s. Now, its something even the main stream media is picking up on. We can now communicate at the speed of light anywhere we want because of the World Wide Web and satellite communication. We can and are letting the Worlds economy, or our nation’s dept to other nations, and environmental treaties push us in that direction of a one World Government.

ONE WORLD LEADER / ANTICHRIST?
In 1972 It was a great mystery how one man could enter the World stage and become so popular in such a short amount of time, and how this popularity will cross borders. After all he will only have 3 1/2 years to position himself for the abomination of desecration. Not saying Obama is the One, to hundreds of millions of his Koolaid but with Obama coming out of nowhere in just a few months to become almost a Godhead drinking followers all over the World. I can say now, that this mystery has been solved. If he is not the One, the real antichrist is waiting just off stage, and Obama is preparing the world to accept One leader.

THE NEW TEMPLE
Now this should really give us who believe in the End-Times prophecies in the Bible something to contemplate. There has been talk about rebuilding the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem For the Abomination of Desolation to happen, the Temple would have to be rebuilt, right? Well there is serious talk of it now. News story from 5/26/09 Raad Salah: Netanyahu will Try to Rebuild the Jewish Temple
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131578


35 posted on 04/07/2010 4:02:45 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

IMO it will start with a national ID/medical card. I will not comply.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/pages/I-Will-Not-Comply/367469923214?ref=nf


36 posted on 04/07/2010 4:11:29 PM PDT by rae4palin (RESIST--REPEAL--IMPEACH)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
LOL!

Probably just a typo.

37 posted on 04/07/2010 4:23:15 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: bjorn14
Exactly.

Just like they take away freedoms and rights beginning with the least popular (smoking, now taxes on soda and soon taxes on fast food), they can implement this chip by starting with the most easily justifiable people to implant it into.

But, as we all know from experience, it won't stop there.

38 posted on 04/07/2010 4:25:36 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Revelation uses symbols - beasts for empires and world rulers, dragons for Satan, etc. Likewise, the lake of fire is a symbol of judgment upon Nero and upon his idolatrous regime. The false prophet, btw, was likely the Jewish priesthood or the Roman procurate in Judea, both of which suffered a similar defeat.

I haven’t actually discarded any Scripture regarding the “rapture.” The Bible describes a time in which Jesus will descend triumphantly and the dead and living will be made immortal - at the END, when death is destroyed (see 1 Corinthians 15 for the order of events.)


39 posted on 04/07/2010 4:31:32 PM PDT by OttoWetzel
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To: NavyCanDo
Everything you posted, and, if you've noticed, end time prophecy seems to have been kicked into warp speed since the election of Barack Obama.

It's as if, in God's providential timing, Obams's becoming "president" was the equivalent of "gentlemen, start your engines".

Everything is falling into place so fast it's almost impossible to keep up!

40 posted on 04/07/2010 4:32:15 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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