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A Nope for Pope
New York Times ^ | March 27th 2010 | Maureen Dowd

Posted on 03/28/2010 6:25:56 AM PDT by Cardhu

Yup, we need a Nope.

A nun who is pope.

The Catholic Church can never recover as long as its Holy Shepherd is seen as a black sheep in the ever-darkening sex abuse scandal.

Now we learn the sickening news that Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, nicknamed “God’s Rottweiler” when he was the church’s enforcer on matters of faith and sin, ignored repeated warnings and looked away in the case of the Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy, a Wisconsin priest who molested as many as 200 deaf boys.

The church has been tone deaf and dumb on the scandal for so long that it’s shocking, but not surprising, to learn from The Times’s Laurie Goodstein that a group of deaf former students spent 30 years trying to get church leaders to pay attention.

“Victims give similar accounts of Father Murphy’s pulling down their pants and touching them in his office, his car, his mother’s country house, on class excursions and fund-raising trips and in their dormitory beds at night,” Goodstein wrote. “Arthur Budzinski said he was first molested when he went to Father Murphy for confession when he was about 12, in 1960.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: pope; popejoan; women
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1 posted on 03/28/2010 6:25:56 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

Churches who try women in leadership soon learn the axiom: when the women lead, the men leave.


2 posted on 03/28/2010 6:29:44 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Cardhu

Best part of dowds articles are the pics that follow


3 posted on 03/28/2010 6:30:35 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Cardhu
She is dancing on the Trapdoor of HELL!!

The Pope did NOTHING wrong....there's a fabulous thread on FR today on this. WEAKLAND needs to be THRASHED!!

4 posted on 03/28/2010 6:32:05 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Cardhu

How pathetically juvenile, Maureen, ranting for a female Pope and slandering the current Pope on Palm Sunday.

No class, a small mind and a big mouth. And you wonder why men can’t stand you? LOL!


5 posted on 03/28/2010 6:36:51 AM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on it's own.)
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To: Cardhu

This is NUTS! The media is trying to demonize the POPE!

I remember reading that the NAZI’s really wanted to take down Vatican City. Is this far from their agenda?

God Protect Benedict XVI!


6 posted on 03/28/2010 6:40:15 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Cardhu

And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.


7 posted on 03/28/2010 6:40:53 AM PDT by orchestra
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I must say that I cannot bear to enter a Catholic Church anymore and have some whatnot “minister” to me.

Religion aside, from a rational p-o-w what has happened to that organization is beyond absurd.

It shows the power of incremental infiltration. It is going on in our country as well ...

The Tree of Liberty needs ...


8 posted on 03/28/2010 6:53:08 AM PDT by Wontsubmit
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To: Cardhu
If Juan Williams ever leaves Fox news Sunday, I think Maureen Dowd would be the logical candidate to continue the mindless recitation of liberal talking points.

And where are the pictures? There used to be rules...

9 posted on 03/28/2010 6:55:00 AM PDT by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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To: Wontsubmit

Go to either a Latin Mass or an Eastern Catholic parish and no “whatnot” will “minister” to you.


10 posted on 03/28/2010 6:59:36 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Part of the Vast Catholic Conspiracy (hat tip to Kells))
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Must be a slow news day for Dowd. She doesn’t quite understand that the Catholic Church was founded by God and will be here until the end of time. Nuns are not meant to be Priests; they have their own critically valuable roles to fill. It is the “Year of the Priest”. Please pray for more and more great men to find their vocation. My cousin, just out of College, has now entered the Priesthood and we could not be more proud of him. God Bless all the Priests and God Bless the Pope, forever and ever.


11 posted on 03/28/2010 7:00:39 AM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Cardhu

From someone who would make the church into an image of herself.


12 posted on 03/28/2010 7:23:12 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: NoRedTape

Really sad that the spinster Dowd doesn’t have a man in her life these days.


13 posted on 03/28/2010 7:26:49 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier ("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
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To: lurk; Ann Archy; Talisker; reefdiver; orchestra; RebelTXRose; Wontsubmit; Bernard; vladimir998; ...

The claim that a woman, often called Pope Joan, became pope first appeared in a Dominican chronicle in 1250. It soon spread Europe-wide through preaching Friars. The story grew in embellishment but centered on a set of claims.

The time period for this claim is traditionally given as AD 855–858, between the reigns of Leo IV and Benedict III; however, this possibility is unlikely, because Leo IV died on 17 July 855, and Benedict III was elected as his successor on 29 September of the same year.

Jean de Mailly, a French Dominican at Metz, places the story in the year 1099, in his Chronica Universalis Mettensis, which dates from approximately 1250 and gives what is almost certainly the earliest authentic account of the woman who became known as Pope Joan. His compatriot Stephen of Bourbon acknowledges this by placing her rule at approximately 1100. Also, Rosemary and Darrell Pardoe, authors of The Female Pope: The Mystery of Pope Joan. The First Complete Documentation of the Facts behind the Legend, are assuming that a more plausible time-frame would be 1086–1108, when there were a lot of antipopes, and the reign of the legitimate popes Victor III, Urban II and Paschal II was not always established in Rome, since this city was occupied by Emperor Henry IV, and later sacked by the Normans.

Generally, there are two versions of the legend.

· In the first, an English woman, called Joan, went to Athens with her lover, and studied there.

· In the second, a German woman called Giliberta was born in Mainz.

“Joan” disguises herself as a monk, called Joannes Anglicus. In time, she rose to the highest office of the church, becoming a pope.

After two or five years of reign, ‘Pope Joan’ became pregnant, and during an Easter procession, she gave birth to the child on the streets when she fell off a horse. She was publicly stoned to death by the astonished crowd, and according to the legend, removed from the Vatican archives.

As a consequence, certain traditions stated that popes throughout the medieval period were required to undergo a procedure wherein they sat on a special chair with a hole in the seat. A cardinal would have the task of putting his hand up the hole to check whether the pope had testicles, or doing a visual examination.[citation needed] This procedure is not taken seriously by most historians, and there is no documented instance. It is probably a scurrilous legend based on the existence of two ancient stone chairs with holes in the seats that probably dated from Roman times and may have been used because of their ancient imperial origins. Their original purpose is obscure.

In a seventeenth-century study, Protestant historian David Blondel argued that ‘Pope Joan’ is a fictitious story. The story may well be a satire that came to be believed as reality. This view is generally accepted among historians.


14 posted on 03/28/2010 8:12:40 AM PDT by Cardhu
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15 posted on 03/28/2010 8:14:12 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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16 posted on 03/28/2010 8:16:32 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: orchestra

And when you hear those voices do you wear your tin-foil cap and secret decoder ring?


17 posted on 03/28/2010 8:19:58 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Anyone pushing Romney must love socialism...Piss on Romney and his enablers!!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: Cardhu

Maureen Dowd has absolutely no credibility on the news/activism forum. Why would you think she would have any credibility in the religion forum?

OK, what Christians here would like to stand should to shoulder with MAUREEN DOWD?????


18 posted on 03/28/2010 8:42:08 AM PDT by Lorica
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To: Cardhu

LOL that you would post more Catholic hate pieces from the New York Slimes. Don’t you realize they really aren’t after the current Pope? They have published tripe like this for ages against any Pope they wished.

So, in essence, the New York Slimes HATES (yes, I am yelling it!) the Catholic Church. However, the gates of hell and not even the presses of the New York Slimes will prevail against the Catholic Church.

You can rest assured that the New York Slimes will come after your Christian and/or Protestant churches too. Mark my word!


19 posted on 03/28/2010 8:44:06 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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If we took a vote as to who is more delusional, MO DO, Maureen Dowd's nickname, or the usual crowd who insist Catholics are worshiping Mary and /or insistence on Sola Scriptura, who would win the election?
20 posted on 03/28/2010 8:45:39 AM PDT by bronx2
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