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Satire and Sarcasm
Chasing Hats ^ | July 18, 2002 | Joshua Clark

Posted on 03/23/2010 5:44:17 PM PDT by delacoert

Is there a Biblical case for satire? When referring to theological opponents, is it acceptable to use such derogatory terms as “fundie,” “papist,” or “orthodust”? Are such books as Nathan Wilson’s Right Behind and Doug Jones’ Mantra of Jabez appropriate parodies of evangelical books? Or are all of these improprieties in criticism, tending to further division in the Church, drive people from whatever position is being defended, and portray a general picture of Christianity devoid of the love of Christ?

Opponents of satire and sarcasm argue that the mockery behind such monikers and books is not grounded in the love of Christ that is best manifested in charity toward enemies. They say that such ridicule is entirely against Paul’s command in 2 Cor. 6:3 to “give no offense in anything, that our ministry may not be blamed.” And in addition, they say that such sarcastic remarks about theological opponents ignore the fact that we are still brothers in the Lord despite doctrinal differences, and thus a spirit of sectarianism is promoted rather than a spirit of unity in Christ.

While there definitely are perversions of satire that are intended only to stir up strife and dispute, you cannot toss out the principle of Biblical sarcasm just because of its perversions. This is akin to the argument that Christianity is a sham because there are hypocrites calling themselves Christians. Just because there are fake diamonds being manufactured and sold as genuine doesn’t mean true diamonds don’t exist. And so offensive satire should only lead us to seek out what Biblical satire looks like.

Tremendous insights can be gained by looking at Christ’s diatribe against the Pharisee’s in Matthew 23. In vv. 24-27 Jesus says,

Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.

This passage and the rest of the chapter show that the Christianity of the Bible is not always as “nice” or “kind” as we would like. The “love of Christ” is not so warm and nonconfrontational as is commonly assumed. Rather, when there is an antithesis between two groups of people, mere intellectual wrangling can rarely resolve the conflict, and often more inflationary language is required. Christ used this method of caricaturing to show the distinction between His followers and the “blind guides” and “whited sepulchres” that were the scribes and Pharisees.

Also indicative of this sarcastic spirit are the references in the Psalms to laughing at your enemies and having them in derision. The image of Christianity presented in the Psalms is one both of praise to God for preserving the lives of His saints and of prayers to God to cut off evildoers and judge the wicked. Take Psalm 52:6-9:

The righteous also shall see, and fear, and shall laugh at him: Lo, this is the man that made not God his strength; but trusted in the abundance of his riches, and strengthened himself in his wickedness. But I am like a green olive tree in the house of God: I trust in the mercy of God for ever and ever. I will praise thee for ever, because thou hast done it: and I will wait on thy name; for it is good before thy saints.

Such passages as this show that although we are certainly to love our enemies and pray for their salvation, we must also remember that it is God who casts down those who strengthen themselves in wickedness, and preserves as an olive tree those who fear Him. And the revelation of this antithesis between the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman can at times be found in somewhat biting laughter and mockery.

Often Christians get so caught up in restraining themselves from hating their enemies that they end up thinking it is entirely unrighteous to show disdain for them or to mock them. But we find that the Bible is not devoid of ridicule for the fools, and that Christ Himself spread it rather thick on the Pharisees. In our attempts to understand how best to confront those we disagree with, we must never disregard the pattern of Scripture, as this will always lead to futility.

So we see then that sarcasm can be used righteously, but we must define the goal of sarcasm if we are to avoid the more invidious uses that hinder Christian truth. The goal of satire, as with all forms of rebuke, should be to save a person from error. As James 5:20 says, “He which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.” Rebuke in any form is a very gracious act when done with concern for the soul of the man in error.

Mockery should not be the form of rebuke in every situation, however. In Galatians 1:1, Paul says, “Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness.” Never should the usage of sarcasm in the Bible be interpreted to support immediate harshness whenever a brother errs; rather, the emphasis should first be placed on a private rebuke, as this is the first step in the Matthew 18 process.

Yet sometimes mockery is appropriate. Once a person has spurned rebuke, and especially when other Christians are falling into this person’s error, open ridicule may be an appropriate way to call them back to truth. And when the object of the ridicule is the heathen and the workers of iniquity, then mockery is definitely appropriate, as they don’t even share the privilege of brotherhood in Christ. These are the people David and Christ were reproving and mocking. Regarding church discipline, 1 Timothy 5:20 reads, “Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.” And this should also be the heart of any appropriate satire; that others also may fear.

So we find that there is no cookie-cutter approach to determining propriety in satire. At times it seems best to just let an error be, or to go privately to the straying brother. But at other times the shrewdest approach appears to be a public ridicule of a person’s doctrine so that others are not led astray. In order to make this judgment of suitable action, we must have a firm grasp of the basic principles and purpose of satire and then let wisdom guide our actions. If we try to lay things out unilaterally, cut and dry, then we will inevitably hurt somebody since situations are more variable than that. But if we rely on wisdom, we can have assurance that our form of rebuke will be fitting for the occasion.

In summary, we must remember that Christianity is not so limp-wristed as to avoid all mockery of wrong positions, as the examples in Scripture show that this is allowable at least in some circumstances. But we must also remember that the purpose of mockery should always be to point out error, and when mockery is causing undue offense or further entrenching a person in their error, it should be pulled back. We must constantly keep in mind that satire, when wrongly used, can be a divisive blade, cutting brethren to pieces where a simple rebuke would have been admonishment enough; but when rightly used, satire can be an exposing light, revealing error and exhorting to repentance.

So let us use satire with wisdom, and pray for such unity in the faith that satire will become entirely unnecessary.



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To: restornu; svcw

So how close one can get to Heavenly Father will depend how clean their vessel is!

- - - - - - —
Well, my vessel is completely clean because when God looks at me He sees the cleansing blood of His Son.

But if it were not for that, no one, NO ONE could ever be ‘clean’ enough.

Filthy rags, Resty, filthy rags.


121 posted on 03/25/2010 9:57:07 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: restornu

Ok. At least we are getting somewhere here.
You say we must endure the Glory of God. I disagree. I say Praise the Glory of God.
You say there are three levels of glory. I say, what?
You say salvation has nothing to do with mansions and rewards, but do not say what it has to do with “gift”. I say Salvation is the Gift of God, which I will Praise and be thankful for.
You are arguing the word “if”. I just shake my head in disbelief. If here means, “I am going to prepared a place for you, I will come back.” In other words, “if I am going to all this trouble, why would I not come back”. It does not mean, its a crap shoot whether I’ll come back or not.


122 posted on 03/25/2010 10:00:10 AM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: reaganaut
Well, my vessel is completely clean because when God looks at me He sees the cleansing blood of His Son. But if it were not for that, no one, NO ONE could ever be ‘clean’ enough.

Amen!

123 posted on 03/25/2010 10:04:29 AM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: svcw

AMEN!


124 posted on 03/25/2010 10:10:08 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw

AMEN!


125 posted on 03/25/2010 10:10:21 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw

I have come to see it like this...

The LDS often complain that the idea of full salvation by grace through faith means that Christians can sin all they want and still go to heaven so it encourages a sinful lifestyle (license). That is automatically means they take salvation for granted.

That is how they understand the Christian view of ‘salvation by grace’ and think it is arrogant for a Christian to say they are ‘saved’ by faith alone or they know they are saved.

LDS view of our relationship to God is more of a job situation.

The LDS see that we are ‘hired’ by God, we are expected to perform a certain way and we will be paid for it (or rewarded for it). This feeds into the ‘spiritual bank account’ idea. The LDS ‘plan of salvation’ is that God provides US the OPPORTUNITY to return to Him (IOW, to work for Him). The arrogance is that WE work for our rewards.

Christians see the plan of salvation in a completely different way. Rather than a job offer, we were completely destitute, homeless and sick. God comes along and says, “come home with me, trust me, and you can live in my mansion, I will heal you, feed you, care for you and I don’t expect anything in return, you are my guest, not my employee”.

Now would we trash the house? NO. Would we steal from our host? NO. We would be grateful. We would be polite, say thank you, offer to help, pick up our dishes even though we don’t need to. It is amazingly humbling and we would never take our benefactor for granted.

Does this make sense?


126 posted on 03/25/2010 10:24:11 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Christians see the plan of salvation in a completely different way. Rather than a job offer, we were completely destitute, homeless and sick. God comes along and says, “come home with me, trust me, and you can live in my mansion, I will heal you, feed you, care for you and I don’t expect anything in return, you are my guest, not my employee”

AMEN!

Now would we trash the house? NO. Would we steal from our host? NO. We would be grateful. We would be polite, say thank you, offer to help, pick up our dishes even though we don’t need to. It is amazingly humbling and we would never take our benefactor for granted.

AMEN!

Does this make sense? (Referring to lds thought) No

127 posted on 03/25/2010 10:28:59 AM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: restornu
And Ephraim be crowned with his blessing in Zion,

And I Know It's The Spirit of The Lord

Sweet, Sweet Spirit
 
There's a sweet sweet spirit in this place
And I know that it's the spirit of the Lord

There are sweet expressions on each face
And I know that it's the presence of the Lord

Sweet Holy Spirit
Sweet Heavenly Dove
Stay right here with us
Filling us with your love

And for these blessings
We lift our hearts in praise (hearts in praise)
Without a doubt we'll know that we have been revived
When we shall leave this place

128 posted on 03/25/2010 10:30:22 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.)
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To: reaganaut
Well, my vessel is completely clean because when God looks at me He sees the cleansing blood of His Son.

Well said.

129 posted on 03/25/2010 10:32:36 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.)
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To: svcw

:)


130 posted on 03/25/2010 10:37:49 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut; restornu; svcw
Filthy rags, Resty, filthy rags.

Not just rags - but menstral rags (from the Hebrew)

131 posted on 03/25/2010 10:43:52 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla

used menstrual rags at that. Gross! And you are correct on the Hebrew translation of it.


132 posted on 03/25/2010 10:50:36 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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Spirit of God

There must be more than this,
O breath of God come breathe within,
There must be more than this,
Spirit of God we wait for You.

Fill us anew we pray,
Fill us anew we pray.

(Chorus)
Consuming fire fan into flame,
A passion for Your Name,
Spirit of God fall in this place,
Lord have Your way,
Lord have Your way with us,

Come like a rushing wind,
Clothe us with power from on high,
Now set the captives free,
Leave us abandoned to Your praise.

Lord let Your glory fall,
Lord let Your glory fall.

Stir it up in our hearts Lord,
Stir it up in our hearts Lord,
Stir it up in our hearts Lord,
A passion for Your Name.

133 posted on 03/25/2010 10:51:51 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Lord let Your glory fall, Lord let Your glory fall.

Come, Now Is The Time To Worship

(Brian Doerkson)

Come, now is the time to worship

Come now is the time to give your heart

Come just as you are to worship

Come just as you are before your God

Come

One day every tongue will confess

You are God

One day every knee will bow

Still the greatest treasure remains for those

Who gladly choose you now

134 posted on 03/25/2010 11:06:53 AM PDT by svcw (Jesus comforts the uncomfortable and makes uncomfortable the comfortable.)
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To: greyfoxx39

I love that song. I have it on “heavy rotation” on my IPOD.


135 posted on 03/25/2010 11:07:43 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw; greyfoxx39

Jeremy Riddle - Sweetly Broken
From the album Sweetly Broken

To the cross I look, to the cross I cling
Of its suffering I do drink
Of its work I do sing

For on it my Savior both bruised and crushed
Showed that God is love
And God is just

Chorus:
At the cross You beckon me
You draw me gently to my knees, and I am
Lost for words, so lost in love,
I’m sweetly broken, wholly surrendered

What a priceless gift, undeserved life
Have I been given
Through Christ crucified

You’ve called me out of death
You’ve called me into life
And I was under Your wrath
Now through the cross I’m reconciled

Chorus:

In awe of the cross I must confess
How wondrous Your redeeming love and
How great is Your faithfulness

(2x’s)
Chorus:


136 posted on 03/25/2010 11:22:17 AM PDT by reaganaut ("I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: svcw
Still the greatest treasure remains for those
Who gladly choose you now

Say AMEN!

137 posted on 03/25/2010 12:00:59 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.)
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To: reaganaut
The Cross is much with us right now...
"What a priceless gift,
undeserved life
Have I been given
Through Christ crucified"
138 posted on 03/25/2010 12:03:03 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes.)
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To: T O; the; sane

Ps. 27: 4
4 One thing have I desired of the Lord, that will I seek after; that I may dwell in the house of the Lord all the days of my life, to behold the beauty of the Lord, and to enquire in his temple.

Ezek. 33: 9
9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

1 Cor. 6: 9
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Morm. 7: 7
7 And he hath brought to pass the redemption of the world, whereby he that is found guiltless before him at the judgment day hath it given unto him to dwell in the presence of God in his kingdom, to sing ceaseless praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end.

D&C 76: 62
62 These shall dwell in the presence of God and his Christ forever and ever.

D&C 138: 20, 37
20 But unto the wicked he did not go, and among the ungodly and the unrepentant who had defiled themselves while in the flesh, his voice was not raised;
• • •
37 That they might carry the message of redemption unto all the dead, unto whom he could not go personally, because of their rebellion and transgression, that they through the ministration of his servants might also hear his words.

Moses 6: 57
57 Wherefore teach it unto your children, that all men, everywhere, must repent, or they can in nowise inherit the kingdom of God, for no unclean thing can dwell there, or dwell in his presence; for, in the language of Adam, Man of Holiness is his name, and the name of his Only Begotten is the Son of Man, even Jesus Christ, a righteous Judge, who shall come in the meridian of time


139 posted on 03/25/2010 12:58:29 PM PDT by restornu
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