ROTFL...my manx kitteh can't perform that ordinance either...'cause she's a SHE!
But she is speshul, since I've been told most orange kittehs are male.
Guess the males were more valiant in Heab'n.
Posted on 03/12/2010 7:02:37 AM PST by Colofornian
Women have a sacred role in the sanctification and purification of men, Elder Glenn L. Pace of the Seventy told students and faculty during the campus devotional in the Marriott Center at BYU on Tuesday, March 9.
Reflecting on the love he felt from his mother, sister, wife and daughters, Elder Pace spoke of the positive influence women have had on his life.
Speaking specifically about a time when his daughter fell asleep in his arms, Elder Pace noted the comfort it must have brought his daughter to be held by her father. He realized afterward that even greater was the peace and comfort she brought to him.
Looking to the Savior as an example, Elder Pace spoke of the love and respect He bestowed upon women.
"As we read about these associations, our focus is generally on what He teaches them and the love and understanding He gives them," Elder Pace said. "Have you ever considered the possibility that these women provided immense comfort to His burdened soul? It is my belief that He needed them as He journeyed toward living a perfect life in order that He could provide the ultimate sacrifice."
Just as the Savior needed righteous women, so do men today in purifying and sanctification in their lives.
Sharing excerpts from the story of the creation found in the book of Abraham, Elder Pace told of how the earth was created — before Eve — where Adam had been placed in the Garden of Eden. In the garden, Adam was enjoying a utopia in physical surroundings as well as open communication with God. Still, it was not complete without Eve.
"I believe the Father's statement 'It is not good that the man should be alone' (Genesis 2:18) had a much more profound meaning than the obvious biological implications," he said. "It also went further than providing Adam with company. Adam's ability to obtain the purification necessary to get back into the presence of God was dependent upon his continuous association with Eve."
In order for men and women to obtain the highest degree of celestial glory, there is need to be married, Elder Porter said.
"There is a limit to our spiritual development as long as we are single. There is a spiritual development which can only be obtained when a man and a woman join their incomplete selves into a complete couple," he said. "Just as conception requires the physical union of male and female, perfection requires the union of the very souls of male and female."
Although single men and women can accomplish great things on their own, they are incomplete until united intellectually, emotionally, physically and most important, spiritually, he said.
"The world we live in has gone awry with its focus on the physical part of the male and female relationship. If there is too much focus on the physical, the vital areas of intellectual, emotional and spiritual union are not being placed in an environment where they can flourish and grow."
Elder Pace spoke of the obsession the current society has on "making love," rather than developing a complete relationship that enables "expressing love." Because melding divine natures is a necessary element in bringing about perfection, Elder Pace said, individuals must guard against any deterioration of those natures.
"If the world keeps chipping away at the divine nature of women, it is probable that our relationships in marriage will not bring about the sanctification necessary for exaltation or, at a minimum, the process will be delayed," he said.
Referring to the phrase, "men have the priesthood and women have been given the blessing of procreation," Elder Pace spoke of the importance of each role in a relationship, and the ability couples have to complement one another in their eternal roles.
"It is the marriage ceremony in the temple where husband and wife receive the power to perfect their relationship and, thereby, obtain their exaltation."
As individuals work together to become a whole, as the Lord has commanded, they work together to become a combination of complementary capacities and characteristics.
"Sisters, I testify that when you stand in front of your heavenly parents in those royal courts on high and you look into Her eyes and behold Her countenance, any question you ever had about the role of women in the kingdom will evaporate into the rich celestial air, because at that moment you will see standing directly in front of you, your divine nature and destiny."
He’s not quite so wordy as the other nerd.
I am sure he will get over it.
ROTFL...my manx kitteh can't perform that ordinance either...'cause she's a SHE!
But she is speshul, since I've been told most orange kittehs are male.
Guess the males were more valiant in Heab'n.
Hardly eddie - only in your mind.
YOU, not me, distorted Mormonism’s view on women. YOU, not me, ignores points. Did you address my pointing out the obvious that you’re confusing authority with superiority? No you didn’t.
I presented FACTUAL teachings from YOUR APOSTLES eddie on the secondary status given lds women. Your gloss on authority and superiority is just that - a gloss. It is factual (and you agreed) that mormonism isn't necessarily good for mormon women - highlighted by Utah having the highest prozac rate and the equally high rate of lds women abuse of those drugs.
I know such demonization is the first step towards justification of genocide and if not confronted, bad things will eventually happen all over again just because of religious intolerance.
OMG - THE WE ARE OUT TO KILL ALL MORMONS defense. Petty and parnoid eddie. My military service was spent to protect your sorry keester from that very thing happening - a military career you disrespected.
Also, why are you frothing at the mouth? You constantly engage in belittling me and my fellow Mormons, but when your credibility is questioned; oh! How dare he!
Like every other veteran, I put my self on the line - real death, not the paranoid genocide you waffle about. Secondly, it just goes to show how out of touch you are with the military.
Come to think of it, are you really a military veteran or just one of those phonies who were against the war that were paraded before the media? After all, you’re expecting me and everyone else to believe you’re a vet. Well, how would we know you’re telling the truth? Anyone can claim to be anything here.
Yes, thank you again with an additional personal challenge to my veterans status.
It really is quite simple. STOP LYING and MISREPRESENTING my faith. I do not do it to your faith; don’t do it to mine
As of yet - you've failed to prove a single allegation of this. And as long as mormons claim to be Christians - I, as well as others will refute every claim.
I discontinued writing Mormon apologetics for the precise reason that I simply do NOT care any more.
Don't let the door hit ya on the rear on your way out.
Still very, very similar in tone and temperment, don’t ya think?
STOP LYING and MISREPRESENTING my faith
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Edddie Eddie Eddie
You were the one who lied and misrepresented how women are treated in mormonism...
Not us...
In mormonism women are treated as second class citizens at best...
as sex objects and slaves to be used and abused by the “worthy” dirty old men of the “prisethood”
Ya wants some truth ???
Ya cant handle the truth...
Mormonism is not Christianity...
The NCO corps is the backbone of the military, nothing lowly about it.
So that's it?
Your defense of all the Mormon dogma that holds woman in eternal inferiority to man both here and in Kingdom Come rests on your concocted distinction between superiority and authority?
That's pathetic.
Your eternal authority over your wives (all those ones you're entitled to in the Celestial Kingdom) is just a convenience of your God given authority, not superiority.
Yeah, right. How convenient for you.
my box turtle is over 37 years old.
She is speshul!
THank you sir
:)
Agreed.
Carry on
:)
I think it just might be that “priesthood tone of authority” - makes them all sound alike....like pompous, arrogant jerks!
I get dragged in on this forum because I simply cannot tolerate the constant lying and misrepresentation you and the others do against my faith.
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LOL. It is called TELLING THE TRUTH. Something the LDS spin machine fails to do.
Thanks...she’s about ten now...I was gonna be a “foster” for cats...she’s the first one I got to foster, and you can see where that ended up! She was also the last. ;)
The poor little guy must not have been very valiant in the pre-existence - he was sent to earth with the mark of the curse of Manx. Now he can never perform the ordinance of the laying on of tail.
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ROFLMHO!! And what a cute kitteh.
Words sure do have meaning. As a student of history, I am too aware that genocides occur because people have been conditioned into viewing others as subhuman or unworthy of existence. Words condition people into justifying terrible evil because their god wills it or the victims deserve their fate because they are outsiders or different.
The constant demonization and misrepresentation of Mormons has already poisoned millions of minds in the US and elsewhere. Just as the propaganda against the Jews resulted in the Holocaust in Europe, “Mormons are a non-Christian cult” is the first step into portraying us as foreigners or outsiders that will lead to another Holocaust if the thin restraint of our civilization disappears.
Why not just get it over and done with and start killing us Mormons just because we believe differently than you? After all, wouldn’t the world be a better place without us “cultists?”
The current propaganda against us will lead in that direction. So-called “Christians” will once again butcher the outsiders in the name of God. I’ve no doubt if the United States suffers a civilizational collapse that areas with large Evangelical and Baptist populations will resort to exterminating Mormons, and other undesirables like Jehovah’s Witnesses, thinking they’re doing God a favor.
The old, “Well, we never told anyone to kill them” is a pathetic excuse since the poison and hatred towards Mormons was planted long ago in their hearts to their everlasting condemnation.
With an intellect as deep as a dry shallow creek, Watson is using a digger where there ain’t no dirt.
This is tantamount to calling him a criminal.
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Exactly.
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