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Are Books of Scripture Missing from the Bible? (Ecumenical)
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Posted on 02/19/2010 7:42:49 AM PST by restornu

The so-called lost books of the Bible are those documents that are mentioned in the Bible in such a way that it is evident they were considered authentic and valuable, but that are not found in the Bible today. Sometimes called missing scripture, they consist of at least the following:

Book of the Wars of the Lord Numbers 21:14

Book of Jasher Joshua 10:13; 2 Samuel 1:18

Book of the acts of Solomon 1 Kings 11:41

Book of Samuel the seer 1 Chronicles 29:29

Book of Gad the seer 1 Chronicles 29:29

Book of Nathan the prophet 1 Chronicles 29:29; 2 Chronicles 9:29

Prophecy of Ahijah 2 Chronicles 9:29

Visions of Iddo the Seer 2 Chronicles 9:29; 12:15; 13:22

Book of Shemaiah 2 Chronicles 12:15

Book of Jehu 2 Chronicles 20:34

Sayings of the Seers 2 Chronicles 33:19

An epistle of Paul to the Corinthians, earlier than our present 1 Corinthians 1 Corinthians 5:9

An earlier epistle to the Ephesians Ephesians 3:3

Epistle to the Laodiceans Colosians 4:16

Prophecies of Enoch, known to Jude Jude 1:14

Book of the covenant Exodus 24:7 (may or may not be included in the current book of Exodus)

The Manner of the Kingdom, written by Samuel 1 Samuel 10:25

Acts of Uzziah, written by Isaiah 2 Chronicles 26:22

The "Acts of Abijah...in the Story of the Prophet Iddo" 2 Chronicles 13:22 (seems to not be the same as the Prophecy of Ahijah or the Visions of Iddo)

The foregoing items attest to the fact that our present Bible does not contain all of the word of the Lord that He gave to His people in former times, and remind us that the Bible, in its present form, is rather incomplete. Matthew's reference to a prophecy that Jesus would be a Nazarene (2:23) is interesting when it is considered that our present Old Testament seems to have no such statement. There is a possibility, however, that Matthew alluded to Isaiah 11:1, which prophesies of the Messiah as a Branch from the root of Jesse, the father of David. The Hebrew word for branch in this case is netzer, the source word of Nazarene and Nazareth. Additional references to the Branch as the Savior and Messiah are found in Jeremiah 23:5; 33:15; Zechariah 3:8; 6:12; these use a synonymous Hebrew word for branch, tzemakh.

Luke noted (Luke 1:1) that "many" had written about "those things which are most surely believed among us," yet our Bible has only two earlier Gospels, those of Matthew and Mark (John having been written after Luke). The Bible doesn't contain the earlier books to which Luke had reference. The books of 1-2 Kings frequently speak of the "rest of the acts" of the kings contained in the Chronicles of the Kings of Judah and the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel. Some readers undoubtedly believe that these refer to the books known as 1 and 2 Chronicles in our present Bibles. But an examination of the latter shows that they generally do not reveal any of the additional information about these kings that we expect to find there. Moreover, there is good evidence that the biblical books of Chronicles are really later reworkings of 2 Samuel and 1-2 Kings, with deletion of much more material than they add. Consequently, they cannot be the chronicles referred to in the earlier books.

Another reference to a writing not found in the Bible is in 2 Chronicles 35:25, where we read that Jeremiah's lamentation for the slain king Josiah is "written in the lamentations." Many Bible readers have assumed that Josiah is the "anointed of the Lord...taken in their pits," mentioned in Lamentations 4:20. There are two problems with this identification, however: 1) The book of Lamentations was written after the destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BC, two decades after the death of Josiah, and 2) The "anointed of the Lord" taken in the pit clearly refers to the last king of Judah, Zedekiah, who, at the time the Babylonians took Jerusalem, was caught "in their pit" and taken captive to Babylon (Ezekiel 19:8-9). In connection with the Nazarene prophecy, we might add that the scriptural quotes by Jesus found in Luke 11:49 and John 7:38 are not found in today's Old Testament. Similar unsupported quotes are found in Ephesians 5:14 and James 4:5f, as well as in Acts 20:35, where Paul attributes to Jesus a saying found nowhere else in the Bible, including the Gospels.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Other Christian; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 02/19/2010 7:42:49 AM PST by restornu
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2 posted on 02/19/2010 7:43:27 AM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

“Are Books of Scripture Missing from the Bible?”

Nope.


3 posted on 02/19/2010 7:44:04 AM PST by Grunthor (America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.)
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To: restornu

A lot of books aren’t in the Bible, but all of the Scripture is there.


4 posted on 02/19/2010 7:46:11 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: restornu
Just because those books are mentioned they don't have to be included in the Bible - the Bible is saying that if you want to know more about the subject under discussion go to those books and read it.

The Book of Mormon depends on the Bible for proof but the Bible does not need the BOM to prove itself ....

5 posted on 02/19/2010 7:55:12 AM PST by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: restornu

I played musical churches in my young life. I was baptized in a Nazarene church, went to a private Baptist school, and later in life I spent time at a Catholic church and I found it interesting how the Bible’s were different and then there was the NIV version, and a couple other versions I think. Anyway, I was a lukewarm church goer at best, but I find ALL beliefs interesting. I also find it hard to believe that God has shown us all we will ever need to know. That is just my opinion though.


6 posted on 02/19/2010 7:58:33 AM PST by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: restornu

You’ve got living prophets.

Your guys ought to be able to come up with the missing books by revelation.


7 posted on 02/19/2010 8:09:23 AM PST by lurk
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To: restornu

This thread cannot be a caucus because it is making comparisons between Holy writ. I will change the label to “ecumenical” so that antagonism is not allowed.


8 posted on 02/19/2010 8:20:29 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: restornu

God created everything..the Universe, me, you and everyone who ever lived. God is in control in the world..If God wanted the Bible to have certain books in the Bible, they would be there!!

Nothing is missing...


9 posted on 02/19/2010 8:22:22 AM PST by Ecliptic
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To: All
This Religion Forum thread's label has been changed to "ecumenical."

That means NO ANTAGONISM AT ALL is allowed on this thread.

10 posted on 02/19/2010 8:22:25 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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When does honest disagreement become antagonism?


11 posted on 02/19/2010 8:23:22 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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“I also find it hard to believe that God has shown us all we will ever need to know.”

Why?


12 posted on 02/19/2010 8:26:13 AM PST by MaryContrary
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The poster asks a question. Those who don’t want answers should not ask questions.


13 posted on 02/19/2010 8:27:05 AM PST by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: restornu

Why would a Mormonism apologist ask this question? ...


14 posted on 02/19/2010 8:30:45 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Genoa
When does honest disagreement become antagonism?

When the comments made provoke hostility in the correspondent.

On "ecumenical" Religion Forum threads, the poster MUST be diplomatic, thoughtful of his opponents' positions.

15 posted on 02/19/2010 8:30:49 AM PST by Religion Moderator
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To: Genoa

When the truth hurts.


16 posted on 02/19/2010 8:30:57 AM PST by Anti-Utopian ("Come, let's away to prison; We two alone will sing like birds I' th' cage." -King Lear [V,iii,6-8])
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To: restornu

We’re talking about the entire Bible. Are you excluding Protestants and Catholics?

Doesn’t it need to be an Ecumenical thread? Or an open thread?


17 posted on 02/19/2010 8:32:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MaryContrary

Why? ... A parallel for instruction would be the use of firearms: until a child is old enough to be responsible and learn ALL the vagaries of the dangers and respect for a firearm necessary to safely handle a firearm, the child should not be given access to firearms or the ammo for same.


18 posted on 02/19/2010 8:34:07 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: 999replies

“I also find it hard to believe that God has shown us all we will ever need to know. That is just my opinion though.”

But, he has shown us all we will ever need to know about salvation. Without that all other inquiries are moot.


19 posted on 02/19/2010 8:34:13 AM PST by oworm
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To: 999replies

You didn’t mention where you ended up in a denomination.

Your remark about only the Bible — that’s why the Bible says that not all things are written down......in three places.

Thus, the Catholic Church maintains the belief in Holy Tradition. Check out the Catholic Apologetics Threads — the Bible is coming up in the series.


20 posted on 02/19/2010 8:35:41 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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