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To: Natural Law

That’s interesting, but we were talking about the average person standing inside who sees a huge painting of Mary and a cross tucked away in the corner.


5,251 posted on 01/20/2010 12:28:24 PM PST by Gamecock (We always have reasons for doing what we do.)
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To: Gamecock
'cept it is so partitioned you really can't see that.

Whats your point? The altar is dwarfed by the architecture, the carved stone, the stained glass, the lighting, etc. None of that diminishes Christ's central role in the Church or the mass.

5,256 posted on 01/20/2010 12:41:27 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Gamecock
That’s interesting, but we were talking about the average person standing inside who sees a huge painting of Mary and a cross tucked away in the corner.

An average joe's description of the painting here.

The main focus of the painting is Mary (or Queen Mary as Catholics infer)... she is the centerpiece of the painting, the most highlighted and the whole painting is built around her. The very brightest area seems to illuminate right about Mary's left eye and a few cloud areas around her feet almost forming a halo around her...Mary is lifted on a cloud above everyone else. Almost like a Queen.

5,257 posted on 01/20/2010 12:42:31 PM PST by LowOiL ("I adore McCain, support him 100% and will do everything I can to support his reelection" S. Palin)
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To: Gamecock

Catholic parish churches have crosses —often several—in plain view.

My parish church has a huge cross behind the altar, there is one always displayed during Mass, the procession into the church for the liturgy of the Mass is preceded by a cross-bearer. The mulitple stained glass windows in my parish church have at least a dozen small Celtic crosses embedded in them, as well as the actual depiction of Jesus crucified.

My parish church is also built as a Cruciform.

One of the antiphons the people offer together, vocally, during the Mass is as follows:

“Lord, by your cross and resurrection You have set us free; You are the Savior of the world”

(Another antiphon is: “Dying You destroyed our death, rising You restored our life; Lord Jesus, come in glory”)

The steeple and the cross atop it can easily be seen from points of our valley.

The “average person” may not get to Rome, but if they are Catholic they will certainly encounter the cross often in their own parish where they regularly worship..


5,260 posted on 01/20/2010 12:46:34 PM PST by Running On Empty ( The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Gamecock; Natural Law; Mad Dawg; Petronski; wagglebee
That’s interesting, but we were talking about the average person standing inside who sees a huge painting of Mary and a cross tucked away in the corner.

NO, the post was NOT talking about this "average person" -- the post was insinuating that The Church worships Mary, not Christ. Any other statement is a prevarication trying to deflect away from the original intent, now that the original statement has been conclusively proven false.
5,340 posted on 01/20/2010 9:28:02 PM PST by Cronos (Philipp2:12, 2Cor5:10, Rom2:6, Matt7:21, Matt22:14, Lu12:42-46,John15:1-10,Rev2:4-5,Rev22:19)
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