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Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?
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Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?


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To: Quix

Going to bed already? It’s only 2:30 out there. I’m going to go shoot a possum so I can make Janet from another planet Napolitano a new wig


961 posted on 01/09/2010 12:30:57 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Quix
"However, NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH CHRIST. No way around that—however it happens may be up to God, for sure . . . but no way around that."

God does not ask or command the impossible. Those who are invincibly ignorant will gain salvation without ever having heard the Gospel. However, it does not extend to those of you who are merely insufferably ignorant.

962 posted on 01/09/2010 12:32:35 AM PST by Natural Law
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To: 1000 silverlings; Quix



Darryl sez possum's best when you club 'em. (Darryl agrees.)

963 posted on 01/09/2010 12:35:46 AM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Quix

hear that? you’re insufferably ignorant. Apparently because you think the only way to heaven is thru Christ.


964 posted on 01/09/2010 12:36:55 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Cronos
The fact remains the Roman Catholic is told be examine and follow his conscience while the Protestant is ridiculed for doing just that.

The rest of your comments about the OPC are nonsensical. Theonomy simple refers to "God's law." I understand how a church like the RCC which often breaks God's law is so unfamiliar with the term. From Wikipedia...

The term "Theonomy" has been used to describe various views which see the God revealed in the Bible as the sole source of human ethics. Using the word in this sense, Cornelius Van Til argued that there "is no alternative but that of theonomy or autonomy" (Christian Theistic Ethics p. 134).

You disagree with that?

If you're interested, here's the OPC's website.

965 posted on 01/09/2010 12:41:02 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: shibumi
yeah Darryl knows possum, but I think as to how it's really dark out I may just mail order one from Shrute Farms
966 posted on 01/09/2010 12:43:00 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Quix; Natural Law



"We prefer the company of those who are merely invincibly insufferable."

967 posted on 01/09/2010 12:43:32 AM PST by shibumi (" ..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: 1000 silverlings
The two angels on the Ark were where the Shekinah rested and if any bowing was done it had to be by the high priest not the people. (The ignorance of the bible here is always so revealing, especially when Catholics attempt to use Hebrew beliefs and theology, which they obviously know zero about, to defend Catholicism)

Amen! Your vast understanding of the Old Testament always makes me return to it to read and learn more.

968 posted on 01/09/2010 12:49:05 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Cronos

Well actually, to my understanding, the Jewish People were awaiting their “ Messiah King”...who would rule from the House of King David, at that time.

We can follow Messiah King and His lineage in the Old Testament, wonderfully presented throughout. (which I’ve often wished had not been designated old and new, for they both interrupet each other and rest on the other. Then again the new is the New Covenant so it sorta makes sense. But I love them both equally.)

Interesting you mentioning the curtain torn between the Holy of Holies and the people...both Jews and Gentiles had their places in the courtyard of the temple. Of course only the High Priest could enter the Holy Of Holies (thru the curtain) and that not without the sacrificial animals blood shed first...even for himself... “There is no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood.”

When the cutain was torn, (and BTW from ‘top’ to ‘bottom’, which for the gigantic size of it could never have been done by any man), at the time of Christ’s crucifixon, God Himself therefore opened the way for ALL to come into His presence...both Jew and Gentile. The curtain is very symbolic of the wall of sin which sperated us from God.


969 posted on 01/09/2010 12:50:58 AM PST by caww
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To: shibumi
possum jello, made from what's inside'em, calculatingly good stuff


970 posted on 01/09/2010 12:51:25 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Natural Law
You have withdrawn your claim regarding the prohibition against creating images, but now focus on their usage

lol. Show me where I spoke about creating graven images without including praying to those graven images.

There is no defense for the idolatry Rome practices, with pride, no less.

971 posted on 01/09/2010 12:54:28 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings

That is the most dysfunctional show I have ever seen. It is hilarious.


972 posted on 01/09/2010 12:56:49 AM PST by eyedigress ( now.)
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To: 1000 silverlings; Quix

Only if it falls on a Tuesday.


973 posted on 01/09/2010 12:58:25 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings

That’s what she said.


974 posted on 01/09/2010 1:03:56 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Quix

That’ll be easy to remember as I always pay my hamburger bills on Tuesday


975 posted on 01/09/2010 1:04:02 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

lol lol, shut up Phyllis


976 posted on 01/09/2010 1:05:05 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Vance. Vance refrigeration.


977 posted on 01/09/2010 1:11:25 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Now that has me lolrotf...good one!


978 posted on 01/09/2010 1:11:56 AM PST by caww
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To: Mad Dawg

Yes, that’s indeed why we speak of “corned” beef! Not to mention the foot problem! :)


979 posted on 01/09/2010 2:00:15 AM PST by maryz
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To: Mad Dawg

No, it’s St. Peter The reason I bring up just Catholics is because the thread was about Catholics. However, in one of my previous posts, I don’t really trust any religion.

I must confess.....I am probably just a tad bit bitter regarding organized religion. I was raised Lutheran, then once I was old enough not to be forced going to church, I stopped.

As I grew up, I wanted back in. I went back to the church I grew up in and there were 2 new Pastors....a man and wife.

Perhaps I am old school, but I don’t think women should be Pastors. It bugged me the entire time, even though she was very nice (so I thought, but that’s another story), I just couldn’t get over it.

It ruined my whole church experience, so I stopped going. Some time later, I read one of the Lutheran sects started accepting GAY PASTORS!!!

GAY PASTORS!!!! THAT’S AN ABOMINATION!!!! I think there are what, 4 or 5 different sects of Lutheran, but it puts a black eye on all of them. That’s probably not fair, but sometimes I do that.

Then you have the Priests who molested all those children. We are all human and some of us make grave mistakes. However, it was the way the leaders of the church handled it. How long did it take for them to admit there was a problem? How many of those Priests did they shuffle around, putting more kids in danger!

I have lost faith in the whole organized church, especially the older ones. I’m still trying to find my way.

On that note, I will continue to read my Bible and learn on my own. If I am wrong about some things, it’s all on me; however, God knows my heart. I don’t think He will be too angry with me.

I forget what verse it is, but it’s something like there is forgiveness if you do wrong not knowing any better than doing wrong when you know better. I’ll have to look that one up...now I need to know!


980 posted on 01/09/2010 2:30:40 AM PST by NoGrayZone (SARAH PALIN IS MY CUP OF TEA!)
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