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Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?
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Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?


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To: Radix
On the other hand, I have on many occassions out here proved, that I am one antagonistic SOB.
6,221 posted on 01/23/2010 6:11:06 PM PST by Radix (I am from Massachusetts, and I voted for Scott Brown. You're welcome.)
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To: Forest Keeper
"Why indeed. I wouldn't want to be the guy explaining to God why I was improving on His work. :)"

Amen. Me either!

6,222 posted on 01/23/2010 6:15:59 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: Mr Rogers

Awwwww, what beautiful dogs you have!!!


6,223 posted on 01/23/2010 6:18:09 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: Iscool
Just to be clear, we understand that when you say the Church, you mean your Catholic church...

We mean the Church that Jesus gave us. I don't know which particular church you may be referring to when you talk about church. I understand that you are the proprietor of the Church of Iscool (population one) and occupy the throne of LaZBoy on Sundays in front of the Holy Sports Tube.

Sorry to disappoint but I have plenty of Faith


6,224 posted on 01/23/2010 6:18:49 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: Iscool
The current debate is between Catholics...Whether a priest turns into Jesus Christ or not...Some of you say yes...Some of you say no...

Nobody turns into Jesus Christ except for Jesus Christ. I don't understand the confusion. Jesus is God. Jesus is not somebody to be manipulated by the various Protestant groups.


6,225 posted on 01/23/2010 6:29:00 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: wagglebee
"This ranks right up there among the most useless threads ever."

Useless? It's been one heck of a Bible study!! That is NEVER useless.

6,226 posted on 01/23/2010 6:31:34 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: MarkBsnr

Good verses, they back up the object of our faith is Him, not us or any thing we might be given.


6,227 posted on 01/23/2010 6:33:41 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

And that is correct. Jesus will Judge us. Our Faith must be something substantial or it will not stand up to His scrutiny.


6,228 posted on 01/23/2010 6:36:30 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: caww

“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me; ...” Galatians 2:20a


6,229 posted on 01/23/2010 6:42:39 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: MarkBsnr

Lol cat fan???


6,230 posted on 01/23/2010 6:43:28 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: NoGrayZone
Lol cat fan???

I have no idea what you are talking about.


6,231 posted on 01/23/2010 6:51:25 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr

LMAO!!!!! Oops, I meant LMTO!!!


6,232 posted on 01/23/2010 6:54:08 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: Iscool
These statements come from many, many Catholic sources...

Define "Catholic Sources".

We post 'em as we see 'em...

That is rarely the case. In almost every case, I dare say, some comment or interpretation is made, usually as though it were a necessary conclusion from the excerpt quoted, when it is, in fact, the worst possible construction that could be placed on the words.

These priests are responsible for teaching (who knows) how many innocent people out there looking for God...

In the style of church building developed after the Reformation, the so-called "auditory" style, the focus of the Church was on the preacher, rather than on Christ. The preacher became the source of right interpretation of the Gospel, and often his tenure was based on whether his interpretatioon found acceptance in the congregation. This continues in many Protestant assemblies to this day.

By contrast, the preacher, though he does some teaching and preaching, is NOT, among us, considered the font of wisdom the average Protestant cleric is expected to be. He is to attempt to live a holy life and to assist in the fomration of the congregation. But we do NOT look to our clergy for teaching, and I have cheerfully ignored many a ferociously awful homily. I have found in the Catholic Church far greater freedom to follow my own theological and spiritual pursuits. it is certainly a blessing when one finds a pastor who is a good preacher, sound in doctrine and effective in its presentation. But it is not an expectation.

You guys don't seem to object too loudly what these priests teach..

You base this on what? I routinely tackle clergy, if we both have the time, on questions or disagreements I may have with what they said or the way they said it. We often write our bishops to complain or (less often) to commend a priest, and his teaching is one of the things we complain about, if it is heterodox. I complained long and loud about a deacon who was teaching a doctrine expressly condemned in an encyclical.

You may not be familiar with the experience of being a Catholic parishioner and may have formed some ideas which are out of touch with reality.

6,233 posted on 01/23/2010 7:10:02 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Iscool
We are constantly asking you guys to tell us what you believeConstantly?

One of the first posts I read on the Religion Forum asserted that I believe in Alchemy. That set the tone, as far as I'm concerned.

YOu can say what you like and I may be wrong, but when I read
Your church has zero to do with the Faith of Jesus...
I think I know all I need to know about the writer's sincere desire to know what we teach.

6,234 posted on 01/23/2010 7:14:43 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: MarkBsnr
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Here is my eldest in her lol kitty pic!

6,235 posted on 01/23/2010 7:16:37 PM PST by NoGrayZone
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To: Iscool
The current debate is between Catholics...Whether a priest turns into Jesus Christ or not..
and
[With respect to the Catechism] I've heard enough of it from you guys to know that it's an extremely poor commentary at that..

What was that about how you are constantly asking us what we teach?

6,238 posted on 01/23/2010 7:21:31 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Natural Law; Iscool
When somebody tells me that he is constantly asking what we teach and then says our Church has nothing to do with faith in Jesus and our Catechism is a lousy commentary on Scripture and tells me all about how we treat our clergy (except that is isn't how we actually treat our clergy), the one thing I know is that I don't know what's going on.

One hypothesis is that he has formed ideas and failed to check them with what really goes on in our parishes. I didn't mean to be all sneaky. It just seems to me to be a conjecture worth considering.

6,239 posted on 01/23/2010 7:26:02 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg; Iscool
"One hypothesis is that he has formed ideas and failed to check them with what really goes on in our parishes"

When a somebody repeatedly expresses anti Catholic rhetoric and then openly admits he knows absolutely nothing on the subject and is not interested in learning the truth the only conclusion left is that the misrepresentation is willful and with malicious intent.

6,240 posted on 01/23/2010 7:33:59 PM PST by Natural Law
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