Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?

Me

[the_conscience]

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?

[Judith Anne]

I think about that sometimes, most especially when my family or friends visit, and we have such a great time together...surely Christ in His life had many such moments...

Regarding ritual, I think of all the Passovers and other Jewish ritual Christ must have participated in...even His earthly foster father, and Blessed Mary took Him at the very beginning of His life to the temple...the wedding at Cana was certainly filled with ritual, as were the funerals...

Rituals bring us together at certain important times, so that we remember on a regular schedule who we are in relation to God Almighty and His Son. Our Church rituals are filled with His Holy Word, most especially at the common daily mass and the major Church celebrations. They lift us up, encourage us, and nourish our faith.

Just my 2cents.

[Titanites]

Frothing Fingers. FROTHING FINGERS!

[Running On Empty]

Beautiful, JA

You are a companion for the Journey.

[Titanites]

Oh, look! Not only do they worship the Reformers, they place them above Jesus!

Maybe they are calling them "Jesus". The alter Christuses of the Reformation.

[Petronski]

I am quite accustomed to fully prostrating myself at the altar of the church...

Okay...

THERE IS, NOWEVER, quite a strong aversion and even proscription in our congregation AGAINST DOING *RELIGIOUS* stuff out of habit or ritual etc.

So "yes but no never" eh?

ROFLMTO

[LowOiL]

1) It doesn’t mean Mary is god or that we think of her as a god.

Just a Queen right?

[Petronski]

I pray that the Lord God Almighty free you from all duplicity and anti-Catholic rage.

Amen

[Petronski]

Queen of Heaven, yes.

Are you conflating “god” and “queen” now?

[Titanites]

I am quite accustomed to fully prostrating myself at the altar of the church

Why does your church have an altar?

[Petronski]

PRISSY, NARROW, RIGID, HAUGHTY, SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS TO THE MAX

If you're trying out your new tagline, I vote a wholehearted YES.

[Petronski]

Notice the Soviet leitmotif in their art...godless, cold, foreboding, sinister....

Like John Calvin's little pocket deity himself.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank you so much for your encouragements, dear brothers in Christ, Quix and Markbsnr!

Of a truth, I do not claim that the person depicted in the photograph of that sculpture was Mary, blessed virgin mother of the Incarnate Word, Jesus.

The rest of the sidebar dealt with why, and objections as to why, I am offended by any thing or any one being draped on the Cross in lieu of my Lord Jesus Christ as if to say he or it is equal to Him. Spiritually, I perceive that kind of “art” as an insult to the body and blood of Christ.

The Cross, testifying by its image the blood and body of Christ, truly is that sacred to me.

Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? – Hebrews 10:29

For the LORD thy God [is] a consuming fire, [even] a jealous God. – Deut 4:24

Even if no other mortal were offended by that kind of art, it would still offend me.

Beyond that I only have two remarks pertaining to vladimir998’s condemnations at post 5474:

1. I am not and have never been anti-Catholicism much less anti-Catholic. Half my beloved family is Catholic and my dearest sister in Christ is Catholic.

2. To paraphrase an often used Catholic saying, I will never apologize for the Holy Spirit.

Now I shall leave this sidebar with my prayers for God's abundant blessings for all of you, my brothers and sisters in Christ.

To God be the glory, not man, never man.

[Quix]

I gather . . . that some finger frothers have that old problem so prone to afflicting some Vatican associated cliques . . . hereon . . .

That old . . . what is it . . . intellectual??? . . . genetic???? theological--naw . . . psychological???

INCAPACITY to tell

THE DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN

SAME
VS
d i f f e r e n t!

So, if I go to Safeway . . . or Walmart . . . and sometimes I'm hungry for say crackers . . . say out of 20 trips to Walmart or Safeway . . . I shop for crackers 1 or 2 times . . .

that compared to Roman Catholics et al genuflicting EVERY TIME they get within 36" of an image or statue of Mary . . .

MY slavishly shopping for crackers 1 or 2 times out of 20 trips . . .

is the SAME
or EQUAL
RELIGIOUS RITUAL
to the slavishly genuflicting at virtually EVERY image or statue of Mary by a sizeable chunk of Vatican associated Believers.

GOODNESS!

And they think that the MANGLED DICTIONARY thing is unfair!?!

Boggles the mind.

[Cronos]

it must be that primitive Calvinism they keep talking about. Hmmmm.... Interesting..... next there must be a cubism Calvin too.

[Cronos]

he's like Pope of Popes.

Dang nam it! You gave it away. Now we all have to say "Hail Lord Ivan" 327 times.

[Petronski]

As you know, I don’t read your technicolor gibberish.

Post like an intelligent adult and I will read it.

NGR invoked.

[annalex]

I am no perfesser, but will be glad to help if I can.

[Religion Moderator]

Do not make this thread “about” individual Freepers. That is also “making it personal.”

[Petronski]

Have not and will not.