Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?
I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?
ok, then a member of a pentecostal group
well, it IS Biblical truth that we have a loving God who allows us (God knows why :) to freely choose or not choose Him.
NGR invoked, PT variant.
You’re perfectly capable of posting in intelligent, adult standard American English, and sometimes do.
So when you instead choose to dumb yourself down to gibberish, don’t expect me to try to plow through it trying to discern deliberately-veiled meaning.
“HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH US IS A DANCE.”
That is an awesome analogy. And we do not attack the sovereignty of God in any way by accepting his sovereign invitation to dance!
nope.
Re; Leviticus 26:30 - there is also a saying about a house with a faulty foundation. Some research tells me there is a possibility that New Orleans and Haiti have something in common. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Vodou Anyone want to go there? I just just did ans what I got as an argument like ‘I don’t care’ Look at the innocent suffering children! I know Matthew 25:40 “Inasmuch as ye did it to one of the least of these my brethren, ye did it to me.” I’m thinking Re: Leviticus 26:30 - “And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.” Should I help those who He abhors? Who’s foundation is built on satanic?
FYI - Mormons reject the Trinity, since they reject one God.
INDEED.
THX.
“The reality is that these various forms of systematic attempts of assimilation and acculturation of the Haitian people did not destroy our national religion which remains omnipresent, pervasive, strong and continues to perform important functions in ALL aspects of Haiti’s social life.” The Haitian ancestral religion represents a key element of Haitian consciousness and provides moral coherence through common cosmological understandings. The principles outlined here constitute some of the core moral values emphasized in the Haitian worldview. Vodou offers a particular ethical orientation grounded in both an African ontological conception of life and the Haitian realities—ecological, linguistic, economic, social and political.” UCSB Center For Black Studies http://research.ucsb.edu/cbs/projects/divinehaiti.html
I wrote (as you quoted)
You heard it here first: Jesus was a sinner.
Unless, of course, "all" doesn't exactly mean "all."
Then you produce some stuff, not clearly related to the simple dilemma that I presented. However, you do clearly conclude:
Did Jesus commit any sins??? Of course not..
Thank you. You concede that "all" does not exactly mean "all." YOU brought,"For all have sinned ...," up to refute the dogma of the immaculate Conception. You have conceded that THAT argument does not work.
While OTHER texts might be useful to show that Mary sinned, the text originally proposed IS A TOTAL BUST as an argument BY ITSELF in the attempt to refute the dogma of the Immaculate Conception. It does not, it cannot do what you brought it forward to do.
If you would now like to move on to another argument, I might be interested. But first we deal with the fact that the verse you presented doesn't do what you wanted it to do.
Tricky issues only God is able to sort out.
Jesse DuPlantis and others who have had visits to Heaven have spoken of the aborted babies in classes there as children.
I have no doubt of that.
Scripture says that the sufferings of this life are not worthy to even be compared with the glories of our heavenly lives. That has to include young children in Hati.
Undoubtedly there are children in Heaven by virtue of their deaths before the age of accountability . . . who likely would not be in heaven had they matured to adulthood.
Eternal life in exchange for suffering is a GREAT DEAL!
Thankfully, Christ offers it freely.
There’s going to be more suffering in our era than EVER HAS BEEN on the planet AND THAN EVER WILL BE AGAIN.
Christians are going to have to come to grips with it. God is THE BOSS. Everything He does is by definition Good, whether it meets our finite notions of fair, or not.
And, it is idolatrous arrogance to think that WE are
MORE MERCIFUL
than THE GOD WHO SENT HIS ONLY SON.
I don’t think so.
hmmm.. Baptist? Mennonite? Anglican?
nope. nope. nope.
When you look at the worlds impoverished places, it’s not hard to see a pattern.
Don't be pattin' yourself on the back yet...Jesus committed no sin...Was Jesus born into a fallen, fleshly body???
Was Jesus saying, 'all of us have sinned'??? Or was it, 'all of you have sinned'??? You have to dig a little deeper before you can attribute sinlessness to Mary...
When God tells me that everyone is a sinner, I can't imagine he is including himself in the accusation...When God say that none are righteous, I know he's not speaking of Himself...
You pick a verse and find a word (all) to play with and you think you can build a religion out of Mary by pretending God did not mean what he said...
There's a fly in your ointment...
ABSOLUTELY.
CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES . . .
or there’s no true choice involved.
It is not news to us on the baptismal regeneration side that some folks who have been baptized go on to live sinful lives.
Therefore what we are talking about must include a different idea of "regeneration."
hmm... so you’re not Presbyterian, nor Baptist, nor Mennonite, nor Anglican, nor Pentecostal, nor Lutheran, nor Amish, nor Wesleyan. You’re Evangelical? Or Calvinist?
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