Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?
I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?
How do you differentiate between angels, fallen angels, archangels, seraphim, cherubim, ophanim, cherubs, burning bushes, dazzling bright lights and the variety of manifestations of the Hindu Godhead?
Really? Created any universes lately? Or are you LDS, working your way up to become god of your own. Oh, but if you're female, you don't get to do that. Where does it say that we have the same will that God does?
Yes, but this assurance is never independent of what we do, see, for example, how the saving faith of which Jesus speaks in John 5:24 coexists with the judgement by the works in verse 29.
Understand, no one who is Catholic disagrees that faith is central to our salvation, — the disagreement is that the faith without works is dead, as the Scripture teaches, and theat the judgement is by the works, as the Scripture also teaches.
annalex - I’m not being sarcastic, at least not this time - what do you think is meant by ‘born again’?
When Paul writes, “What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who is against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things? Who will bring a charge against God’s elect? God is the one who justifies; who is the one who condemns? Christ Jesus is He who died, yes, rather who was raised, who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us. Who will separate us from the love of Christ?”, what do you think he meant? Is there a Catholic interpretation of these verses?
1) a slave, bondman, man of servile condition
a) a slave
b) metaph., one who gives himself up to another's will those whose service is used by Christ in extending and advancing his cause among men
c) devoted to another to the disregard of one's own interests
2) a servant, attendant
Paul says the unsaved are slaves to sin..or servants if you will...take it up with him
The primary meaning, and the one usually attributed to the term, is voluntary servitude, indentured servitude or term servitude. At any rate, it means that one agrees to it before entering into it.
Well, if you want the title of heretix so badly, based on your incessant attention to things Catholic, I don’t see why you should not have it.
“This is not gracious, nor is it close to the truth.”
In what way is it not close to the truth?
Jesus did not pray that we all be one?
That is not a reason why the search for unity would be a high priority?
sitetest
Didn’t Princeton have one before they kicked out Machen?
I'm assuming that this is a typo...
YOU TOO???!!!!
:::
The Word: Cast all your care on him that careth for thee.
Me: Okay, I’m trying REALLY hard to cast all my care on ...
The Word: Do you know what you just said? I said ALL your care, even you care about caring.
Me: Okay, I will now try really REALLY hard not to try hard.
The Word: [laughs, speaking to self] I can see this is going to take a while. Fortunately, a thousand ages in my sight ....
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EXCELLENT.
So what would the Vatican . . . uhhh . . . standard . . . dictionary definition be of:
“conventicle”
???
You probably realize that it will never get by the . . . uhh . . . finger frothers’ rubber dictionary screeners and screamers.
What other church on earth has all that?
The Church of England - 400 years before the Vatican. You know, the pederast who commissioned, bought and paid for the bible that so many Protestants worship was the first hardcore King of the Church of England. The Westminster Confession was also commissioned, bought and paid for by the Parliament of England. A sovereign nation that this country fought to be free from, and you guys worship their foul religious documents and satanic directives.
How's that all working out for you? How's that limo ride going?
I never said all references to justification are in the future tense. This one is in the present continuing tense. "I am being saved, I am being justified, I am being educated", all refer to a process that is ongoing and uncomplete. "I was justified" would refer to past tense. In "being of sound mind" "being" is not forming a passive voice, so it is a different grammatical pattern. It is nevertheless, likewise pointing to a present, rather than past, condition that may or may not obtain tomorrow.
The “doctor’s” entourage bump.
It is sufficient that the claim is anti-Catholic. Now move along, feelthy papist!
Either Christianity or the lord of this world. I am so grateful to be in the camp of Our Lord and not the camp of the Machenites.
“What a fabulous repudiation of Christianity. “Satan is a tool of God”.”
How do you interpret Job 2:5-7, “But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown.”
and Job 19:20-21, “My bone cleaveth to my skin and to my flesh, and I am escaped with the skin of my teeth. Have pity upon me, have pity upon me, O ye my friends; for the hand of God hath touched me.”
The Orthodox are not another church or division. They are as Catholic as any of us. They are in a different see, that’s all. They should not be excluded from any discussion of faith with us whatsoever.
Unity is a high priority, but not at the expense of other Christians. The bishops of the five original sees are all equal in the eyes of the Lord, and the servants of the servants of Christ, all of them. Kolo is a better Christian than just about anyone that I have met online. Including myself.
I said this:
“Another reason for making this a high priority (to the Orthodox this may appear as the ‘No. 1 priority,’ but I'm not so sure it is to Pope Benedict) is that it is that for which Jesus prayed.”
You said this:
“This is not gracious, nor is it close to the truth.”
I asked you, in what way is what I said not close to the truth?
I said that another reason why reunion may be a high priority to Pope Benedict is that this is that for which Jesus prayed.
Do you believe that my statement about another reason why reunion may be a high priority is false?
sitetest
To worship is to offer sacrifice; that is what the Liturgy is, consistent with Rom 12:1-2.
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