Posted on 01/05/2010 9:46:47 PM PST by the_conscience
I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?
I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?
You do not understand the doctrine of election.. take some time to study it
Given your trouble with
“Roman Catholic” and “Catholic,”
I wasn’t aware that you knew it.
So mans will is stronger than Gods grace? Mans will is stronger than Gods will? Does God have a free will?
I understand it too well:
Jean Calvin = David Axelrod
I don't expect you to know, but there are plenty of Catholic missionaries in far corners of the world.
Your misperception of such “trouble” is just a symptom of your problem with it.
Is God powerful enough to give us free will?
Amen, Rnmomof7!
Hopefully Christians will read the Scripture you provided and realize the distinction it is proclaiming. Men are either slaves to sin or slaves to righteousness, according to the purpose God planned from before the foundation of the world for His glory and believers' welfare.
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father." -- Romans 8:14-15"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Sola Calvin
Did Calvin write that?
He argued that the Savior did not multiply the loaves and fishes literally; Jesus merely motivated the thronging people to share their food with one another. He opined that Christ did not actually walk upon the Sea of Galilee; it was just that, from the disciples’ vantage point, it appeared that he did—as he walked in the shallow water near the beach. Further, he said, the Lord did not really intend for Peter to cast his fishing hook into the sea in order to obtain a coin from a fish’s mouth; rather, he meant for the apostle to use his fishing skill to raise the funds for the temple tax. So went the Barclay .”
http://heissufficient.com/2007/11/28/william-barclay-theological-hero-or-heretic/
So please find another" theologian" to make your point..thanks
Those are the kinds of questions that sent me back to the Bible where the answers proved the Calvinistic perspective to be true.
And he is before all things, and by him all things consist." -- Colossians 1:16-17"For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
"All things."
Sounds like him, but I don’t know.
I’d love to see someone point it out in Scripture if it’s there.
Right. Back again to the matter of God’s glory. The vessels were made for His glory, not ours.
No Sola scriptura
(Romans 6:14-19) For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace. 15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? May it never be! 16 Do you not know that when you present yourselves to someone as slaves for obedience, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin resulting in death, or of obedience resulting in righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you became obedient from the heart to that form of teaching to which you were committed, 18 and having been freed from sin, you became slaves of righteousness. 19 I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh. For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, resulting in further lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification.
People really do need to read their bible so they get to know Christ and his work
Thanks for the bible text.. :)
Not sure if he knows :)
Does God have free will? We are made in His image.. So the question is best answered by asking if God has free will.. or does His will reflect his nature ?
What say you?
to believe in a human nature that is free to act (and be provident for ourselves) is utter nonsense. But, it may explain why the RCC view tends to elevate men and leads to the Nebuchadnezzar view ("I will make myself as the most high"). Hmmm.
Yep. Salvation is either partly due to man's own righteous choice, as in synergism, or salvation is all of God from start to finish, as in monergism.
"That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been" -- Ecclesiastes 3:15
"For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth" -- Romans 9:11"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure" -- Isaiah 46:10
Explain the theology of election to us
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