Who are the Catholics: The Orthodox or The Romanists, or both?

Me

[the_conscience]

I just witnessed a couple of Orthodox posters get kicked off a "Catholic Caucus" thread. I thought, despite their differences, they had a mutual understanding that each sect was considered "Catholic". Are not the Orthodox considered Catholic? Why do the Romanists get to monopolize the term "Catholic"?

I consider myself to be Catholic being a part of the universal church of Christ. Why should one sect be able to use a universal concept to identify themselves in a caucus thread while other Christian denominations need to use specific qualifiers to identify themselves in a caucus thread?

[Petronski]

Romanism gets caught up in definitions and misses the context. Romanism treats the arts as science. Romanism treats form as meaning.

Terrible thing, that Romanism.

Thank God I'm a Catholic, not a Romanist.

[Quix]

Very important to clutch Jesus by the hand. One can get lost otherwise.

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QUITE SO. QUITE SO.

[Cronos]

Nah, they aren’t either — the “pastors” just spend their time with heretical notions like the ones in the OPC.

[xone]

Because of God's word, I can say I know I have eternal life and that I will NEVER perish, will never be cast out and will never be lost again.

Excellent. I still don't like contemporary worship.

[Religion Moderator]

Thick skin is required for the "open" threads on the Religion Forum because when one religion spawns from another each condemn the other in the harshest of terms such as heretic, apostate, anathema, cult, Satanic.

Because of these hard positions which often constitute deeply held beliefs on both sides - childish slurs and condescending behavior also multiply on both sides.

Remember that people only use spitwads when they have no ammunition. Count it a win and walk away.

If you can't do that and get offended by the childish banter, then it is best to ignore open RF threads altogether.

[Quix]

I’d agree with your daughter about

PEOPLE.

Institutions and theology make it a bit more of a sticky wicket, imho.

[Quix]

worthy points, I think.

[Cronos]

Irregardless of the "correct" definition the definition supplied has no implicit meaning associated with it that demands one acknowledge a supreme authority through the use of that name.

So, similarly, you argue that the Evangelicals, Presbyterians, Reformed, Baptist, Pentecostals etc. have no right to their names since those words are also common nouns?

[Quix]

Worth pondering.

However, I’m from Texas . . .

where the only things in the middle of the road are

yellow stripes and dead armadillos.

[esquirette]

One issue addressed cannot serve to address all theological points. My thesis was that God has either made works a condition precedent to salvation, or Christ’s atonement is sufficient.

One response said that we would not know if our works were sufficient for salvation until after death. My response to that was that Paul’s words in Romans 8 would be without meaning.

Certainly I agree that there is always a concern about one’s standing and growth, and there are many exhortations in the Bible on that topic.

[Quix]

I’m aware of the technicalities your refer to.

However, Bro, hereon, quite a chunk of folks

STRIDENTLY, SHRILLY WRITE AS THOUGH, seem to believe as though and relate to Trinitarian Protty Christians as though

the Vatican position is exactly that exclusive.

The PRESENTATION of the Vatican we have hereon by a very significant chunk of her reps is exactly that.

[Mad Dawg]

Yes, all this wrangling about words only proves my original point. All WHAT wrangling about words? What POINT?

There's a mistake. There are several unfounded accusations. When we ask for some backup, some support or explanation for these contentions we get

Romanism gets caught up in definitions and misses the context. Romanism treats the arts as science. Romanism treats form as meaning.

Don't you see that misusing words is a little like passing counterfeit money? If somebody does it a couple of times people stop taking what he offers.

Maybe it IS an incapacity on my part, but I can scarcely make sense of what you say. And now, when there's a gauche error, instead of more care or accountability for the error, we see more incomprehensible words without support. It's hard to know how to respond to this kind of thing.

[Petronski]

The only reason we won’t overlook the idiocy in his posts is because of the evils of Rome....donchaknow.

[Mad Dawg]

I was just subjected to an illiterate barrage of unsupportable and unsupported charges in a sort of verbal Chagall-ism of vague, dismembered, floating, unconnected expostulations.

I conclude that we can burn a lot of energy talking and complaining about the oposting style of our adversaries.

But to whose good? To what end? Why?

[the_conscience]

Yes, I believe it IS.

[Quix]

What a spectacle . . .

the wailing

whining

dust throwing THIN SKIN parade strikes again.

I think mother’s and Mamaw’s response would have been to put a bit of sugar in the corner of a . . . white hanky, actually . . . and give it to the whinter to suck on.

Scripture has some very clear things to say to folks who willfully take personal offense when they don’t need to, at all.

[esquirette]

“That is circular logic of the highest order.

Similarly, if the girl weighs less than a duck, she can’t float and therefore is made of flammable wood, proving she’s a witch.”

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There is no premise so that sentence is not circular logic. That sentence is nonsense.

Circular logic is more along the lines of this statement:

The Church is infallible because the Scripture says so, and the proof of the Scripture being correct is that the Church is the final interpreter thereof.

[Natural Law]

"What a spectacle . . ."

FYI - I don't read or respond to your posts.

[Uri’el-2012]

Interesting post. I'll save it for a later read. So, would verse 3 about "Your people" signify only the Jews or also those of Jewish descent or all Christians and Jews?

It could be argued that Jesus came for all mankind, so the statement "Your people" would signify all Christians too who believe Christ came to give us the ability and the freedom to choose God.-- what do you think?

All those who have been grafted into the olive tree. => Romans 11

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

[Quix]

Thanks for the belly laugh.