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Can Catholics Be Christians?
The Orthodox Presbyterian Church ^

Posted on 12/08/2009 11:41:52 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: Theo
But if you define “Catholic” as the body of believers who find their “home in Rome,” then, no.

Great!

The Catholic Church is the church founded by Christ, protected by the Holy Spirit to this day. I'm Catholic and I've never been to Rome.

81 posted on 12/08/2009 12:31:50 PM PST by Petronski (Global warming is indeed man-made: it was created by man-made manipulation of the data.)
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To: Gamecock

>>Considering the Papists around here think Proddies are all lost that is quite funny<<

I’m proud to be Papist, got the bumper sticker to prove it.
Every Catholic believes what the Vatican states.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070629_responsa-quaestiones_en.html

It is possible, according to Catholic doctrine, to affirm correctly that the Church of Christ is present and operative in the churches and ecclesial Communities not yet fully in communion with the Catholic Church, on account of the elements of sanctification and truth that are present in them.[9] Nevertheless, the word “subsists” can only be attributed to the Catholic Church alone precisely because it refers to the mark of unity that we profess in the symbols of the faith (I believe... in the “one” Church); and this “one” Church subsists in the Catholic Church.

I know some believe that Catholics think that “Proddies are all lost” but we actually believe that you are Brothers and Sisters in Christ.

Wish those that were not Catholic thought the same of us. It always makes me giggle when certain posters call non-Catholics “Brother in Christ” or “Sister in Christ” but never calls a Catholic that.


82 posted on 12/08/2009 12:32:21 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Don’t make me go David Byrne on ya....


83 posted on 12/08/2009 12:32:28 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

The body dies. The spirit lives on. Mary’s body died. Her spirit lives on, just as everyone’s spirit lives on.

Christ, on the other hand, was raised to life and remains alive, and He is sufficient to intercede on our behalf. Christ is sufficient.

I do not talk to dead people. I talk with the living Lord.

Do you talk to any other dead people, Hegewisch Dupa?


84 posted on 12/08/2009 12:32:58 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo
May Rome decrease and Christ increase.

I wasn't aware of any competition between Christ and the capital municipality of Italy, but sure, Christ first!

85 posted on 12/08/2009 12:33:07 PM PST by Petronski (Global warming is indeed man-made: it was created by man-made manipulation of the data.)
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To: Alex Murphy
And yet the Pharisee described by Jesus still sounds remarkably like the author of this silly article. Apparently you'd just as soon not address that unpleasant similarity.

Somehow I don't feel like I lost at all.... But then, I don't put my faith in Mr. Irving, nor in smug reformed theologians.

86 posted on 12/08/2009 12:33:53 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Gamecock

“Can Catholics be Christians?”

Of course. The Holy Catholic Church is the Church that Jesus founded.

The real question is, “Can non-Catholics be Christians?”


87 posted on 12/08/2009 12:34:05 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Theo
I do not talk to dead people.

They're not dead.

88 posted on 12/08/2009 12:34:05 PM PST by Petronski (Global warming is indeed man-made: it was created by man-made manipulation of the data.)
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To: SnakeDoctor

Superbly stated. Nothing left for me to say.

Agree 100%.


89 posted on 12/08/2009 12:34:10 PM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Petronski
Aw, that’s so cute. You’ve kept a dossier on me. Glad to know I’m that effective.

No, dear.

90 posted on 12/08/2009 12:34:22 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("Though He slay me, yet will I trust Him" - Job 13:15)
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To: SnakeDoctor

>>So long as a person hits the big stuff, I don’t think it matters much where they fall on the small stuff. His Grace will no doubt cleanse us of the doctrinal errors that I’m sure we’ve each made.<<

You, my FRiend are quite righteous! Lord Love you!


91 posted on 12/08/2009 12:34:56 PM PST by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Petronski

Hm. Then I guess I’m “Catholic.”

And I thank God for His Reformation of His Church, to correct all the heresies smuggled in during the previous centuries of biblical illiteracy.


92 posted on 12/08/2009 12:35:26 PM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Theo

Never said I talk to any. But at least we agree we are talking about the spirit, and not rapping with corpses.


93 posted on 12/08/2009 12:35:40 PM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Alex Murphy
No, dear.

Now you switch to the abuse, knowing you let a hint of your respect for me slip.

So sorry. LOL

94 posted on 12/08/2009 12:36:05 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Gamecock
Congratulations, this thread has earned one of these...


As a faithful Catholic, I am placing this thread on

IGNORE


If you are Catholic, be aware that this thread contains slanders about the Catholic Church. We should not reward invincibly ignorant anti-Catholic bigots by engaging them in futile debate. Therefore, please do not respond to any of the lies about the Catholic Church contained on this thread.




Saint Paul pray for those who hate the Church.

95 posted on 12/08/2009 12:37:00 PM PST by Antoninus (The RNC's dream ticket: Romney / Scozzafava 2012)
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To: Theo
And I thank God for His Reformation of His Church, to correct all the heresies smuggled in during the previous centuries of biblical illiteracy.

The "reformation," so-called, was not "His" work.

96 posted on 12/08/2009 12:37:44 PM PST by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

What a gross misunderstanding of history, the bible, and the Caholic Church. I have always found the self-hating heretics to be the most disturbed of the religios fanatics.


97 posted on 12/08/2009 12:38:01 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: napscoordinator

I’m going to say “St Michael, the archangel...”


98 posted on 12/08/2009 12:38:17 PM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: Gamecock

(Actually, that’s pretty cute.)


99 posted on 12/08/2009 12:39:06 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

>> [...] If you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your denomination to John Smyth, who launched it in Amsterdam in 1605. [...] If you are a traditional Roman Catholic, you know that your Church was founded in the year 33 A.D. by Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

Most would argue that Christ founded the Christian church, not the Catholic church (a subset of Christianity). As a Baptist, I trace my church lineage to 33 A.D. just as you do. The fact that we separated from Catholicism does not necessarily mean we abandoned the church founded by Christ.

We simply disagreed with some of the fallible men that have run that church since Christ’s resurrection, and thus believe that the Catholic church departed from Christianity in some respects in the interim.

SnakeDoc


100 posted on 12/08/2009 12:39:12 PM PST by SnakeDoctor ("Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much." -- John Wayne)
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