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Amazing Video: Does God Exist?
American Papist ^ | September 27, 2009

Posted on 09/27/2009 3:38:59 PM PDT by NYer

And now for something quasi-serious.

A fascinating concept, perfectly executed:

Hardly a relative theory.

Click here!



TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Religion & Science
KEYWORDS: einstein; evil; god; physics
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To: NYer

The Bengals beat Pittsburgh. That’s all the proof I need.


21 posted on 09/27/2009 5:11:50 PM PDT by bleach (Wake me in 2012)
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To: Boogieman

“My point was that just because something can be defined as merely the absence of something else, doesn’t make the thing you are defining any less real.”

Actually, it does.


22 posted on 09/27/2009 5:20:24 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

So, since darkness is not real, I guess you don’t turn on your headlights when you drive, eh?


23 posted on 09/27/2009 5:23:29 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NYer

This is on YouTube....read the comments...


24 posted on 09/27/2009 6:08:51 PM PDT by Fawn (Rush Limbaugh---> America's pinata)
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To: Boogieman

“So, since darkness is not real, I guess you don’t turn on your headlights when you drive, eh?”

I presume you mean at night.

Given the absence of light, I use my headlights to provide it.


25 posted on 09/27/2009 6:23:37 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc

If the phenomena of darkness is not real, but merely the absence of light, why do you require headlights to mitigate an imaginary condition?


26 posted on 09/27/2009 6:27:38 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

“If the phenomena of darkness is not real, but merely the absence of light, why do you require headlights to mitigate an imaginary condition?”

The absence of light is not imaginary. It really is absent.


27 posted on 09/27/2009 6:32:58 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: NYer
Without going through the litany of scientific findings with great explaination - Einstein, Wilson & Pezias, Eddington confirming the findings of Einstein, the 2nd thermal law, COBE and WMAP - all confirm a beginning of the universe. We arrive at First Cause. Here we meet up with a First Cause which according to science is timeless, self-existent, nonspatial, and immaterial (without limit), unimaginably powerful to design and bring the universe into existence ex nihlo, who is supremely intelligent to design with such precision, and apparently personal in order to choose to convert a state of nothingness into the time-space-matter-energy continuum called the universe.

So there seems to be two possibilities - Everything came from something -OR - Everything came from nothing.

If there is no God, then why believe anything at all?

It might seem odd that the very characteristics which science defines as First Cause are the same as what theists have been describing as years as God but that is how it is.

28 posted on 09/27/2009 6:55:25 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: NYer

Great video. It makes an interesting and thoughtful point.


29 posted on 09/27/2009 8:05:18 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: dsc

Your previous statement implied that darkness, being defined by the absence of light, is therefore less real than light. If the abscence of light is real, then darkness, which is a description of that condition is real as well, eh?


30 posted on 09/27/2009 8:07:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: NYer

Merkwurdige!


31 posted on 09/27/2009 8:11:29 PM PDT by pankot
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To: NYer

That little tyke would’ve been expelled in today’s public schools.


32 posted on 09/27/2009 10:28:29 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: CommieCutter

“I form the light and CREATE darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do ALL these things.”

—Isaiah 45:7

Which is what the video is supporting. Note that Isaiah 45:7 does not say this:

“I form the darkness and CREATE light, I bring disaster and create prosperity; I, the LORD, do ALL these things.”


33 posted on 09/28/2009 1:15:32 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (It's a Girl!)
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To: Boogieman

“Your previous statement implied that darkness, being defined by the absence of light, is therefore less real than light. If the abscence of light is real, then darkness, which is a description of that condition is real as well, eh?”

No. Doesn’t follow at all.

Try this: try starting with the presumption that the absence of a thing is not a thing, and figure out why that is true. Then you can go back to the position that the absense of a thing is a thing, and possibly with the new insight figure out why that proposition is false.


34 posted on 09/28/2009 8:35:01 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: whatisthetruth
That little tyke would’ve been expelled in today’s public schools.

Perhaps but odds favor him being put on Ritalin to keep him seated and quiet.

35 posted on 09/28/2009 9:31:07 AM PDT by NYer ( "One Who Prays Is Not Afraid; One Who Prays Is Never Alone"- Benedict XVI)
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To: NYer

What an entertaining video! I believe St. Augustine defined “Evil” as ‘privatio boni’, i.e. absence/privation of Good. According to scholastic philosophy a ‘privatio’ can be predicated only of something which by nature exists. For example ‘blindness’ may be predicated of a man because it is in man’s nature to see. Since a stone cannot see, it’s lack of sight is not a ‘privatio’ because it is not in a stone’s nature to see. Therefore Evil may be predicated of creation in general as a ‘privatio’ because the transcendental nature of creation is Good, as well as True and One.


36 posted on 09/28/2009 10:28:05 AM PDT by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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To: dsc

Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree. Darkness is quite a real phenomena, regardless of whether you define it by the absence of something else.


37 posted on 09/28/2009 2:55:16 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: applpie

It’s easy to do a search on bible passages and get the bible to say what you want it to say by taking passages out of context and by not having an understanding of the bible in the first place.

Be careful what you attribute to God without wisdom.


I’m sorry you don’t get it. The Bible clearly says this. Just because you think I’m using this to discredit the Bible shows your lack of wisdom.


38 posted on 09/28/2009 3:56:22 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

You can split hairs all day long; it’s summed up with, “..I, the LORD, DO ALL THESE THINGS.”


39 posted on 09/28/2009 4:05:08 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: Boogieman

Well, the way I see things, the line of reasoning in the video is conflating scientific definitions with observed phenomena. Science may define darkness as the absence of light, but the fact still remains that the phenomena of darkness exists, or there would be no need to define it.


EXACTLY!


40 posted on 09/28/2009 4:30:43 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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