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To: vimto
Either Genesis is right or evolution is right.

I, and many Christians disagree. As a great Christian leader said, the Bible teaches us "WHY", science teaches us "HOW". Man's understanding of what the Bible means, especially in terms of trying to use it as a scientific text, has proven flawed time and time again. Maybe, instead of looking at the two in conflict, look at all the discoveries we make and see how it illuminates what God wrote. God gave us a mind for a reason.

11 posted on 09/24/2009 8:51:27 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
“God gave us a mind for a reason”

Mmmmm....like your views rely on the use of your mind and by implication Bible believing folks like me don't? Well in that case you can convince yourself of anything.

If evolution is right, then (as the article says) there is no Adam and Eve, no original sin, no need for a savior and Jesus is redundant, QED. Thinking through the logical consequences makes Christianity out to be no more than a nice but untrue religion.

sorry, I cannot buy into that.

Kind regards.

13 posted on 09/24/2009 8:59:28 AM PDT by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: mnehring

God gave us a mind for a reason.


But not to the point of leaning on it exclusively.

And you’re missing the memo...evolution as taught in school today dismisses God’s creation. Your ideas are purposefully marginalized.


65 posted on 09/24/2009 3:30:51 PM PDT by tpanther (Science was, is and will forever be a small subset of God's creation.)
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To: mnehring; vimto
I, and many Christians disagree. As a great Christian leader said, the Bible teaches us "WHY", science teaches us "HOW".

How many words in the first three chapters in your favorite Bible version deal with how the world was created, and how many deal with why it was created?

What great Christian leader said that Adam and Eve were created, that belief in Moses' writings were essential to Christian faith, said that Noah's flood was a real event and that Sodom and Gomorrah were really destroyed?

Man's understanding of what the Bible means, especially in terms of trying to use it as a scientific text, has proven flawed time and time again.

Can you cite some times when people considered the Bible to be a scientific text and were "proven flawed?" I'm not getting your reference.

Also, could you explain how believing that a document (one that does not discuss a single scientific process) means what it plainly says is the same as usuing it as a scientific textbook?

Maybe, instead of looking at the two in conflict, look at all the discoveries we make and see how it illuminates what God wrote. God gave us a mind for a reason.

Indeed He did. How does the current state of evolutionary theory "illuminate" an account where there are plants before there's a Sun, birds before there are land animals and a woman is built from a rib bone and dirt, coming into existence at least days after the man?

257 posted on 09/26/2009 3:01:56 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're right! We're free! And we'll fight! And you'll seeeeeeee!)
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