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Rapturealert.com ^ | 09-12-09 | Jack Kelley

Posted on 09/13/2009 11:48:38 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

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To: JesusBmyGod

CRUCIAL POINTS WELL MADE.

THX.


541 posted on 09/23/2009 4:30:45 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Marysecretary

INDEED.

AMEN.


542 posted on 09/23/2009 4:31:11 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: MarkBsnr; Marysecretary; Outership; marbren; XeniaSt

SUCH AS . . .

AVOIDING

—IDOLATRY OF . . .

. . . OBJECTS
. . . PESONS
. . . RELIGION
. . . GROUPS
. . . LEADERS
. . . !!!!TRADITION!!!!
. . . IN-GROUP VS OUT-GROUP
. . . RITUALS
. . . APPEARANCES
. . . RELIGIOUS PEDIGREES
. . . ELITISM, SNOBBERY, HAUGHTINESS, ARROGANCE
. . .

2. HAVING A FORM OF RELIGION BUT DENYING THE AUTHENTIC HOLY SPIRIT POWER OF AUTHENTIC RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

3. THE NEGLECT OF HUMILITY AND BROKENNESS BEFORE GOD.


543 posted on 09/23/2009 4:36:06 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1; boatbums
It can be readily assumed that the fig, and the olive are both symbolic in prophecy for Israel.

Assumed? On what basis? Solid biblical interpretations, esp. of things like prophecy, are not built on assumptions.

Not at all - What I am saying is that Luke may be referring to "all the trees" in the same way that God is referring to "all my mountains"... He is giving an extra clue, perhaps, compared to the other Gospels.

The non sequitur was that simply referring to the phrase “all my mountains” does explain how the phrase, "Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near” allegedly refers to future Israel. Specifically, what does it mean for “all the trees” to be “budding” at the end times? You have not told us that. Luke 21:29 is about the futurist end times, isn’t it?

Why is it that we are not to take the statement as a simple parable that Christ was using to explain to His disciples that, just as you can tell the seasons by inspecting the condition of trees, that you can tell the time of the coming of the kingdom of God? That is certainly the way it reads. “Then He spoke to them a parable … .” Yet some folks wish to force it to mean something that the text does not require.

Besides, it is not clear that the phrase “all my mountains” is referring at all to nations. Why don’t we just take them as mountains?

544 posted on 09/23/2009 4:39:47 PM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: topcat54; Marysecretary; JoeProBono; Outership; marbren

LEADING IN THE SPOUTING OF
UNBIBLICAL GARBAGE
Seems to be SUCH
a chronic habit
with so many
REPLACEMENTARIANS et al

545 posted on 09/23/2009 4:53:18 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1
It has certainly been a while since I have been called upon to defend this as such, but I can hardly see how it can be avoided in the great prophets,

Perhaps that is due to your preconceptions on the topic, rather than the text itself.

Revelation 15:3 Two songs, one for the Jews, and one for the Church.

One of the frustrations here is that it is impossible to critique this style of presentation because the unstated assumptions and presuppositions that leads one to interpret (I use that phrase loosly in this case) the passages in the way you suggest. After all, you have not actually quoted the passage and done a word by word or phrase by phrase walk through in order to come to your conclusion. You have moved from the given to the conclusions without doing any real work. It’s as if the conclusion is so obvious that no real work is necessary to prove the conclusion. While the conclusions may be obvious to the adherents to your system, they are not so obvious to everyone else.

For example, take the passage above, Rev. 15:3 and explain how you come to your conclusion. This will demonstrate to all what presuppositions we must adopt in order to arrive at your conclusions.

546 posted on 09/23/2009 4:53:30 PM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: Quix
Rim shot ...


547 posted on 09/23/2009 4:54:50 PM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: marbren
... experiencing a personal “in the now” relationship with my Lord Jesus Christ. I have changed.

That the most important part, no?

548 posted on 09/23/2009 4:58:12 PM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: topcat54; roamer_1; Blogger; Outership; Marysecretary
After all, you have not actually quoted the passage and done a word by word or phrase by phrase walk through in order to come to your conclusion. You have moved from the given to the conclusions without doing any real work.

What a grandiose example of another huge pile of stinking REPLACEMENTARIAN et al rationalized hypocrisy.

Most of the Dispies hereon for any serious length of time have learned the hard way that REPLACEMENTARIANS et al VIRTUALLY NEVER bother with doing a shred of the above AT ALL.

And on the rare occasions when they hint in that direction, they never use authentic UNRUBBERIZED BIBLES OR AUTHENTIC UNRUBBERIZED DICTIONARIES OR AUTHENTIC UNRUBBERIZED HISTORIES OR AUTHENTIC UNRUBBERIZED LOGIC TEXTS.

Obviously, roamer, the above protestation is a pile of stinking paper mache dogs.

Evidently it's also an example of another wild haired REPLACEMENTARIAN et al fantasy that OTHER FOLKS SHOULD PLAY BY THEIR RULES but they don't have to bother in the least. REAL IMPRESSIVE, that.

You'll note that the list of Scriptures I posted just above has only resulted in a garbage can gif. Cute.

We should certainly avoid holding our breaths waiting for the kind of response to those Scriptures that you've been chided about failing to 'measure up to.' Gag me with a very big spoon.

549 posted on 09/23/2009 9:27:24 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54; roamer_1

Ahhhhhhhhh . . . another post

vividly demonstrating REPLACEMENTARIAN et al’s broken mirrors and wholesale compulsion to misperceive reality.

Looked, to me like the REPLACMENTARIAN et al’s posts have been landing square in the middle of their garbage cans over and over and over!


550 posted on 09/23/2009 9:29:23 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

Goodness!

SOMETHING we can agree on?!

Shocking.

Blow the man down!

Praise God!


551 posted on 09/23/2009 9:30:21 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
To 549, 550, and 551 ...

Rim shot ...


552 posted on 09/24/2009 5:42:12 AM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: topcat54; Joya; Outership; roamer_1

NOT AT ALL
'merely'
YET ANOTHER
VERY TYPICAL
grossly outrageous
REPLACEMENTARIAN et al
MISperception,
eroneous misconclusion.
REPLACEMENTARIANS et al
YET AGAIN
managed to throw their
pseudo-theological
burps
into the middle
of their
garbage can.
--Which, actually
is uncharacteristically
thoughtful, of them.

553 posted on 09/24/2009 5:54:44 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

BTW, THANKS AGAIN

It’s always a joy when

a REPLACEMENTARIAN et al

PARADOXICALLY and obviously MOST UNwittingly

confirms the UNRUBBERIZED BIBLICAL TRUTH

by a derisive post.


554 posted on 09/24/2009 5:58:06 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
REPLACEMENTARIAN et al

And by “et al” do you mean anyone who's not an inarticulate, ufologist, charismaniac, zionist-type?

555 posted on 09/24/2009 6:33:31 AM PDT by topcat54 ("If Israel is 'God's prophetic clock,' then dispensationalists do not know how to tell time.")
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To: Quix
Charismaniacs have their own language, so I wasn't quite sure.

But anyway ... three ... two ... one ...


557 posted on 09/24/2009 8:16:05 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Don't whine to me. It's all Darby's fault.")
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To: topcat54

Your curiously

paradoxical obverse derisive confirmations

of the

UNRUBBERIZED BIBLE,
UNRUBBERIZED DICTIONARY,
UNRUBBERIZED HISTORY,
UNRUBBERIZED LOGIC

TRUTH

remain quite welcome encouragements.

Thanks.


558 posted on 09/24/2009 8:22:50 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54

However, my post below should NOT be construed as any ENCOURAGEMENT to lie. Note to those in Rio Linda: Lying is spiritually hazardous.

Your curiously

paradoxical obverse derisive confirmations

of the

UNRUBBERIZED BIBLE,
UNRUBBERIZED DICTIONARY,
UNRUBBERIZED HISTORY,
UNRUBBERIZED LOGIC

TRUTH

remain quite welcome encouragements.

Thanks.


559 posted on 09/24/2009 8:24:04 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: topcat54; Marysecretary; Joya; Blogger; Outership

BTW,

I MUCH appreciate the very persistent

sequential DEMONSTRATION that

REPLACEMENTARIANS et al

are not bothered at all by any pretended inarticulation

yet

ARE bothered significantly be obviously very very clear articulation.

That’s a WONDERFULLY humorous thrill and comfort.

Thanks tons.


560 posted on 09/24/2009 9:13:17 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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