Episcopal Bishop: Individual Salvation is "Great Western Heresy"

Associated Baptist Press ^ | 07/10/2009 | Bob Allen

[C19fan]

Jefferts Schori said "heretical and individualistic understanding" contributes to problems like neglect for the environment and the current worldwide economic recession. "The sins of a few have wreaked havoc with the lives of many, as greed and dishonesty have destroyed livelihoods, educational possibilities, care for the aged, and multiple forms of creativity," she said. "And that's just the aftermath of Ponzi schemes for which a handful will go to jail."

According to this pagan witch if you are not part of the "Borg collective" you are a sinner. Notice there is no mention of Christ.

[Frumanchu]

Pinging a few fellow heretics...

[marvlus]

the first woman to be elected as a primate

Wow, what does this mean? Kinda caught my eye.

[Broker]

She can monkey around or go ape if she so divines.

[aposiopetic]

"Ubuntu doesn't have any 'I's in it," she said.

Is this ("there's no 'I' in the word Ubuntu") belated homage to Doc Rivers' coaching effort on the way to the Celtics' 2008 NBA title?

[carcraft]

Somebody much more theologically literate than I summed up the situation nicely and this is only a paraphrase With most homosexual issues in the Episcopal Church it is about I, me, my, (read one of Gene Robinson's statements) even to the point of threatening to destroy the Anglican community, now Bishop Schori tells us it is about being part of the collective. These folks can't have it both ways!

[rbg81]

So....only collectively can we reach salvation? Really? Sounds like a religious justification for Socialsm or Communism.

[C19fan]

The false prophet just called the following heretics:

St. Anthony of the Desert
St. Jerome
Julian of Norwich

etc....

[BibChr]

Yep. Commented on here, and more to come later at the same site when the week's Hither and Thither goes up, DV.

[Woebama]

Romans: 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.

John 6:35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life;(AP) whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. 39And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 40For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

[50sDad]

Jefferts Schori said countering individualistic faith was one reason the theme chosen for the meeting was "Ubuntu," an African word that describes humaneness, caring, sharing and being in harmony with all of creation.

Unlike so many, I don't feel so disconnected and adrift from my faith and beliefs that I need to go looking to different cultures, lands, and peoples to manufacture metaphors about my relationship to Jesus Christ, cornerstone of my faith. Jesus knew my sins, suffered anyway, rose again, made me clean. Eleven words, none of them in Swahili, Reverend.

[GiovannaNicoletta]

1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2 Peter 2:1-3)

Another day, another end-time Bible prophecy fulfilled.

[Le Chien Rouge]

“Ubuntu,” an African word that describes humaneness, caring, sharing and being in harmony with all of creation.

In other words, Humanism....

The two biggest threats facing traditional conservative Christian Churches are Humanism and Liberation Theology.

Beware.

[50sDad]

There's no "I" in Eternal Damnation, either. Oh, wait...there is.

[Frumanchu]

Moreover, it sounds very much like the Progressive “Social Gospel” that framed the liberal fascism of Woodrow Wilson and is enjoying somewhat of a resurgence of late.

[Lee N. Field]

Leftist love to yammer on about "community".

Salvation doesn't do me much good unless I, personally, am "in".

[SES1066]

I did not leave the PECUSA (Protestant Episcopal Church of the USA), it left me and it is statements like this that prove it. Just like the libs dislike the concepts of the Founders and original intent and the Federalist Papers insight into the US Constitution, so does the current leadership of the PECUSA ignore the Book of Common Prayer and the principals that are the rock of our faith.

[Diapason]

You can take it from a South African. Ubuntu is all about the pantheistic concept of interconnectedness - all is one (those still alive AND their ancestors), all is part of God, therefore there is no right or wrong, just your truth and my truth. If you’re not sure, ask the ancestors. Dangerous stuff, but a very popular word nowadays.

[ohhhh]

Just another Episcopalian heretic of the Babylonian tradition. Perhaps she should read the Scriptures and believe them before curing God and His Christ like all the heretics who deny the literal truth of Scripture and refuse to acknowledge the doctrines therein.
If she doesn't recant and get herself saved by believing in her heart and confessing with her mouth how that Jesus Christ died for sins and how He rose again the third day (every individual must say yea or nay to Jesus the Christ, blessed is every individual who says yea, Lord Jesus of Nazareth), she will be thrown into the Lake of Fire after the white throne judgment of Jesus Christ OUR LORD and OUR Saviour as will the rest who denied His grace. Only Bible believing Christians will see heaven and the Kingdom of God as the Scripture teach.
She is a heretic of the worst kind as are many in today's satanic controlled ecumenical church's that refuse the Word of God and set up their own doctrines and traditions which is why apostasy abounds in today's 21st century as the Scriptures prophesied. She is of the Laodecian church that revelation reveals the Lord shall spew out of His mouth at the rapture of the Body of Christ.
The wicked forsake their own mercy.