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Seven Men Named Jesus
Rapturealert.com ^ | 5/2/2009 | Jack Kelley

Posted on 05/08/2009 3:35:50 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

A recent poll claimed that about half of all professing Christians don’t believe that Jesus is God, or that the Holy Spirit and Satan even exist. Smaller but still significant percentages don’t believe that Jesus lived a sin free life or that He is the only way to salvation. This has prompted questions about whether this means they aren’t really saved. I remembered an article on this subject that I wrote a number of years ago and in response to these questions I have updated and expanded it. I believe it will explain what you have to believe about Jesus to be saved. Let’s read it.

The Other Six

Ever suspect while talking with someone that you may have a mutual friend? Then as you get further into the conversation you realize that you are describing two different people who happen to have the same name? So it is with discussions of Jesus. The name’s the same but the descriptions vary widely. Over the years I’ve collected numerous descriptions of men named Jesus. Which one do you know?

First there’s the Jesus of Judaism. He’s known in Jewish writings as the illegitimate son of Miriam (Mary). He lived in the first century CE (they don’t use AD) and led people away from main stream Judaism into a cult. His followers were first called Netzerim (people of the branch) and later Christians. In his name Jews have been persecuted unmercifully over the centuries. Jews who admit to believing He was their Messiah are often considered dead to their families. Jews don’t believe in a second coming because they don’t believe there’s been a first one.

Then you have the Jesus of Islam. He was a prophet and teacher on a par with Mohammed. His role was to help prepare people for the great leader from Allah coming at the end of time to judge the world. He was born of a virgin but was not the son of God because the Quran says “God begets not, nor is he begotten.” He didn’t die for the sins of the people because in Islam salvation comes from good works. Neither was he resurrected. Instead, in a time of confusion God took him live into heaven and someone else was crucified. He will return at the end of the age to defeat the anti-Christ, call everyone to Islam, and prepare the world for judgment.

The Jesus of Mormonism is the spirit brother of Lucifer. Both are sons of a god who was once a man and one of his many wives. This Jesus became a human as the result of a sexual union between the Mormon god and an unmarried Jewish girl named Mary. He’s often called the Savior but never Lord, because although he’s one of god’s sons, he’s not god. If he determines that you’ve done everything you possibly can to earn your own salvation and are still short, he’ll graciously make up the difference. He’ll return at the End of the Age, having protected his saints through the time of Great Tribulation, to set up his kingdom.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses have a Jesus too. He’s a son of Jehovah, but He’s not God. Rather, he was a perfect man just like Adam originally was. Before he became a man he was the Archangel Michael, who The Witnesses believe to be Jehovah’s first created being. Just believing in Jesus is not enough to save us. we also have to become a Jehovah’s Witness, be baptized, and obey God’s laws all of our life to prove ourselves worthy. Their Jesus wasn’t physically resurrected, but came back to life in Spirit form. He returned to Earth in Spirit form in 1914 and will become a physical being again at Armageddon.

Then there’s the Jesus of the liberal denominations. He’s a first century man who lived an exemplary life of such gentleness and grace that it was almost as if he was God. He’ll see that everyone who joins their denominations gets accepted into heaven whether they’re born again or not. Some proponents of liberal theology claim that he’ll also see that everyone who was sincere in whatever other religion they practiced will get to heaven too. For the most part, liberal denominations don’t believe in the literal fulfillment of End Time events. For many, the 2nd Coming happened to each person when they first believed in Jesus.

The New Age Jesus is really one of the oldest. He originally appeared in first century Gnosticism. This Jesus was a man who like 40 other “ascended masters” holds the key to knowledge (gnosis) that when learned will bring about the next phase of human evolution, a spiritual growth that will finally make peace on earth possible. He didn’t die for our sins because there’s no need for us to be saved.

You’ll find variations on these six themes in nearly every major religion and cult around today. It seems every body wants you to think they know a man named Jesus, even if they have to redefine him to suit their beliefs.

The Real Jesus

But there is one more man named Jesus. He is not a created being. On the contrary He is our Creator. As Paul wrote in Colossians 1:16, By him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He’s not an angel and he’s not a mere man, because He created both. The archangel Michael might be the first created being, but if he is, Jesus is the one who created him. And Lucifer may have many brothers, but if he does, Jesus created them all.

This is the Jesus of the Bible. He claimed to be God in the form of man (John 10:30 and 14:9). Men who knew Him agreed. Paul taught the Deity of Jesus in Colossians 1:15-16. So did John (John 1:1-3). The writer of the Book of Hebrews also agreed (Hebr 1:3) and included a quote from Psalm 45:6-7 that shows God Himself addressing Jesus as God (Hebr 1:8). And this is not just a New Testament idea. In his prophecy of the Messiah’s birthplace, Micah said He was an eternal being whose goings forth were from days of eternity. Literally from before time and perpetual. (Micah 5:2) He is the eternal God.

Here’s where your knowledge of Scripture becomes really important, because in order to be all the Bible claims, Jesus has to be both 100% man and 100% God. If He isn’t a man He couldn’t have been made like us in every way and suffered our temptations as Hebr. 2:17-18 claim; he couldn’t be our High Priest as Hebr. 4:14-15 assert; and he can’t be our redeemer because he wouldn’t be our next of kin as required by Lev. 25:47-48 and explained in Rom 5:18-19. If He isn’t God He couldn’t be King David’s Lord (Matt 22:41-45) He couldn’t be sinless (Rom 3:20) and He couldn’t be our Savior (Mark 2:6-12 and 1 Ptr 1: 18-21).

Is This a Cult?

Three things distinguish Christian cult beliefs from orthodox theology. The cults deny the doctrine of salvation by grace alone. You have to earn at least part of the salvation they offer. They also deny the notion of eternal punishment for sin. Everyone goes to some kind of Heaven. And most importantly, they deny the deity of Jesus. They portray Him as a great man and role model; a great teacher, a prophet, even a social revolutionary, but certainly not God.

In truth Jesus was all of that. But He was also much more. He was God in the form of man; the Father dwelling in the Son (Col 1:19). To think of Jesus as anyone other than God is to reject the truth concerning Him revealed through out His Word, and to put yourself at risk of trusting in the wrong Jesus for your eternal destiny. The Jesus of the Bible is the only one of the seven men named Jesus who is able to save you.


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiccult; christianity; cult; jesus; mormon; salvation
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1 posted on 05/08/2009 3:35:51 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

And then there’s Jesus H. Christ, a name I hear often but have little information on.


2 posted on 05/08/2009 3:38:32 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart.........Palin 2012, can't come soon enough.)
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To: BlueStateBlues

Good point. I wonder where that came from


3 posted on 05/08/2009 3:40:06 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GOP Poet

I was trying to be funny, but you’re right. I have no idea where that came from. Research called for. . .


4 posted on 05/08/2009 3:41:34 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart.........Palin 2012, can't come soon enough.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I was going to make a joke about yard work.


5 posted on 05/08/2009 3:42:47 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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To: SIDENET

But I won’t.


6 posted on 05/08/2009 3:43:20 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
The truth is...
Jesus name was not Jesus....
Nor was Jehovas name jehova..

Hebrew language has NO "J's"... nor does the Greek language..

7 posted on 05/08/2009 3:44:19 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I remember the First Commandment: ‘I am the Lord thy God. You will not have strange gods before me’. So, I don’t know what to think. His way, it would seem to me, is the only way mankind could ever get along in harmony. Islam has got to be the Antichrist. Everything Mohammed preached is the exact opposite of what Jesus preached.


8 posted on 05/08/2009 3:46:51 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: GOP Poet

Wikipedia actually has an article on Jesus H. Christ, and has links which also explain theories of where the name came from. Said that Mark H. Twain used it, and talked about hearing it years earlier.


9 posted on 05/08/2009 3:48:22 PM PDT by BlueStateBlues (Blue State business, Red State heart.........Palin 2012, can't come soon enough.)
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To: hosepipe

I heard that he was name Yeshua, and some how this became Jesus, even though the correct translation would be Joshua


10 posted on 05/08/2009 3:54:10 PM PDT by LukeL (Yasser Arafat: "I'd kill for a Nobel Peace Prize")
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
His followers were first called Netzerim (people of the branch) and later Christians.

Not quite right. In Hebrew, Jews call Christians "Notzrim," which means "Nazarenes"-- literally, "people from [the town of] Nazareth," and, by extension, followers of Jesus of Nazareth.

11 posted on 05/08/2009 3:56:21 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: BlueStateBlues
A recent poll claimed that about half of all professing Christians don’t believe that Jesus is God, or that the Holy Spirit and Satan even exist.

Apparently Arianism is harder to stamp out than we once thought.

12 posted on 05/08/2009 3:59:46 PM PDT by The Iguana
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
A recent poll claimed that about half of all professing Christians don’t believe that Jesus is God

Then they are not Christians.

13 posted on 05/08/2009 4:02:59 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: LukeL
[ I heard that he was name Yeshua, and some how this became Jesus, even though the correct translation would be Joshua ]

Jesus was a jew that had a jewish mother/step-father that spoke hebrew.. hebrew has zero "J's"..

14 posted on 05/08/2009 4:04:30 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

A recent poll claimed that about half of all professing Christians don’t believe that Jesus is God, or that the Holy Spirit and Satan even exist.

HUH !!
What a silly and asinine poll.Or maybe they just found silly and asinine people.
If you do not accept Jesus Christ as the WORD then you are simply not a Christian. There for the people are not Christians and the poll is meaningless.

I can claim to be a Millionaire but if my bank balance shows 342 dollars then no matter what I claim I am not a millionaire...


15 posted on 05/08/2009 4:17:33 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: BlueStateBlues
And then there’s Jesus H. Christ, a name I hear often

I figure "Jesus H. Christ" came from JHC, a Christogram, or abbreviation for Jesus used by Western Christians that was derived from ICXC, the abbreviation for ΙΗΣΟΥΣ ΧΡΙΣΤΟΣ, the Greek words for "Jesus Christ."

16 posted on 05/08/2009 4:32:16 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

I conducted a poll which found that 100% of self-professed atheists are in fact worshipers of the Rastazoroastrian deity Axolotl, and think themselves the reincarnated spirits of ancient Smurfs.

Of course, it was a limited sample, but MSNBC will publish it because all atheists likewise fully support Obama.


17 posted on 05/08/2009 4:32:32 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: BlueStateBlues

Aren’t you a great resource :-). Thank you for the info. and tip.


18 posted on 05/08/2009 4:33:48 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

19 posted on 05/08/2009 4:42:07 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

No one owns the franchise; anyone can believe anything they want to about Jesus. I have yet to meet the person qualified to judge another person’s heartfelt beliefs about Jesus.


20 posted on 05/08/2009 4:46:30 PM PDT by muir_redwoods ( O.B.A.M.A. = One Big Asinine Mistake, America)
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