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Seven Men Named Jesus
Rapturealert.com ^ | 5/2/2009 | Jack Kelley

Posted on 05/08/2009 3:35:50 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta

A recent poll claimed that about half of all professing Christians don’t believe that Jesus is God, or that the Holy Spirit and Satan even exist. Smaller but still significant percentages don’t believe that Jesus lived a sin free life or that He is the only way to salvation. This has prompted questions about whether this means they aren’t really saved. I remembered an article on this subject that I wrote a number of years ago and in response to these questions I have updated and expanded it. I believe it will explain what you have to believe about Jesus to be saved. Let’s read it.

The Other Six

Ever suspect while talking with someone that you may have a mutual friend? Then as you get further into the conversation you realize that you are describing two different people who happen to have the same name? So it is with discussions of Jesus. The name’s the same but the descriptions vary widely. Over the years I’ve collected numerous descriptions of men named Jesus. Which one do you know?

First there’s the Jesus of Judaism. He’s known in Jewish writings as the illegitimate son of Miriam (Mary). He lived in the first century CE (they don’t use AD) and led people away from main stream Judaism into a cult. His followers were first called Netzerim (people of the branch) and later Christians. In his name Jews have been persecuted unmercifully over the centuries. Jews who admit to believing He was their Messiah are often considered dead to their families. Jews don’t believe in a second coming because they don’t believe there’s been a first one.

Then you have the Jesus of Islam. He was a prophet and teacher on a par with Mohammed. His role was to help prepare people for the great leader from Allah coming at the end of time to judge the world. He was born of a virgin but was not the son of God because the Quran says “God begets not, nor is he begotten.” He didn’t die for the sins of the people because in Islam salvation comes from good works. Neither was he resurrected. Instead, in a time of confusion God took him live into heaven and someone else was crucified. He will return at the end of the age to defeat the anti-Christ, call everyone to Islam, and prepare the world for judgment.

The Jesus of Mormonism is the spirit brother of Lucifer. Both are sons of a god who was once a man and one of his many wives. This Jesus became a human as the result of a sexual union between the Mormon god and an unmarried Jewish girl named Mary. He’s often called the Savior but never Lord, because although he’s one of god’s sons, he’s not god. If he determines that you’ve done everything you possibly can to earn your own salvation and are still short, he’ll graciously make up the difference. He’ll return at the End of the Age, having protected his saints through the time of Great Tribulation, to set up his kingdom.

The Jehovah’s Witnesses have a Jesus too. He’s a son of Jehovah, but He’s not God. Rather, he was a perfect man just like Adam originally was. Before he became a man he was the Archangel Michael, who The Witnesses believe to be Jehovah’s first created being. Just believing in Jesus is not enough to save us. we also have to become a Jehovah’s Witness, be baptized, and obey God’s laws all of our life to prove ourselves worthy. Their Jesus wasn’t physically resurrected, but came back to life in Spirit form. He returned to Earth in Spirit form in 1914 and will become a physical being again at Armageddon.

Then there’s the Jesus of the liberal denominations. He’s a first century man who lived an exemplary life of such gentleness and grace that it was almost as if he was God. He’ll see that everyone who joins their denominations gets accepted into heaven whether they’re born again or not. Some proponents of liberal theology claim that he’ll also see that everyone who was sincere in whatever other religion they practiced will get to heaven too. For the most part, liberal denominations don’t believe in the literal fulfillment of End Time events. For many, the 2nd Coming happened to each person when they first believed in Jesus.

The New Age Jesus is really one of the oldest. He originally appeared in first century Gnosticism. This Jesus was a man who like 40 other “ascended masters” holds the key to knowledge (gnosis) that when learned will bring about the next phase of human evolution, a spiritual growth that will finally make peace on earth possible. He didn’t die for our sins because there’s no need for us to be saved.

You’ll find variations on these six themes in nearly every major religion and cult around today. It seems every body wants you to think they know a man named Jesus, even if they have to redefine him to suit their beliefs.

The Real Jesus

But there is one more man named Jesus. He is not a created being. On the contrary He is our Creator. As Paul wrote in Colossians 1:16, By him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He’s not an angel and he’s not a mere man, because He created both. The archangel Michael might be the first created being, but if he is, Jesus is the one who created him. And Lucifer may have many brothers, but if he does, Jesus created them all.

This is the Jesus of the Bible. He claimed to be God in the form of man (John 10:30 and 14:9). Men who knew Him agreed. Paul taught the Deity of Jesus in Colossians 1:15-16. So did John (John 1:1-3). The writer of the Book of Hebrews also agreed (Hebr 1:3) and included a quote from Psalm 45:6-7 that shows God Himself addressing Jesus as God (Hebr 1:8). And this is not just a New Testament idea. In his prophecy of the Messiah’s birthplace, Micah said He was an eternal being whose goings forth were from days of eternity. Literally from before time and perpetual. (Micah 5:2) He is the eternal God.

Here’s where your knowledge of Scripture becomes really important, because in order to be all the Bible claims, Jesus has to be both 100% man and 100% God. If He isn’t a man He couldn’t have been made like us in every way and suffered our temptations as Hebr. 2:17-18 claim; he couldn’t be our High Priest as Hebr. 4:14-15 assert; and he can’t be our redeemer because he wouldn’t be our next of kin as required by Lev. 25:47-48 and explained in Rom 5:18-19. If He isn’t God He couldn’t be King David’s Lord (Matt 22:41-45) He couldn’t be sinless (Rom 3:20) and He couldn’t be our Savior (Mark 2:6-12 and 1 Ptr 1: 18-21).

Is This a Cult?

Three things distinguish Christian cult beliefs from orthodox theology. The cults deny the doctrine of salvation by grace alone. You have to earn at least part of the salvation they offer. They also deny the notion of eternal punishment for sin. Everyone goes to some kind of Heaven. And most importantly, they deny the deity of Jesus. They portray Him as a great man and role model; a great teacher, a prophet, even a social revolutionary, but certainly not God.

In truth Jesus was all of that. But He was also much more. He was God in the form of man; the Father dwelling in the Son (Col 1:19). To think of Jesus as anyone other than God is to reject the truth concerning Him revealed through out His Word, and to put yourself at risk of trusting in the wrong Jesus for your eternal destiny. The Jesus of the Bible is the only one of the seven men named Jesus who is able to save you.


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Theology
KEYWORDS: catholic; catholiccult; christianity; cult; jesus; mormon; salvation
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To: hosepipe
The Roman Catholic Church is merely a denomination...

No Catholic Church is a denomination, whether in Rome or anywhere else.

You seem to be obfuscating.. "the universal church" with the Roman Catholic Church..

Not at all. I did not mention the Roman Catholic Church. The Catholic Church is the Universal Church, as Christ wills it.

The RCC is a schism.. as are Baptists..

Whatever you say.

But the Catholic Church is neither a denomination nor a schism. The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ.

121 posted on 05/09/2009 7:28:52 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: hosepipe

Why is that good? Do you prize my lack of information?


122 posted on 05/09/2009 7:30:11 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski
[ But the Catholic Church is neither a denomination nor a schism. The Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ. ]

Christ did not come to form a church(organization) but a family..
The word church (in greek) does not mean organization..

123 posted on 05/09/2009 7:37:07 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Petronski; hosepipe; Tennessee Nana

You wrote:

“What do you mean by “prove?” Proof by truth or mere half-truth?”

Half-truth? I can’t even get a logical retort from these two.

This is what I’ve gotten so far:

1) Any Catholic who did something they don’t like is magically transformed into the Church in its entirety and teaching in her magisterium. The fact that this is illogical in the extreme and completely vapid as an approach is lost on them apparently.

2) Neither one of these two actually knows what they’re talking about. They might think the Index is medieval? For some reason they think violating the Index was punishable by death. Based on what? They say that most people were illiterate, but then later complain only nobles and priests had Bibles. Well, why would illiterate people have books?

3) They are completely unfamiliar with the ancillary sources they talk around. They say it was dangerous to talk about how Christ changed lives. That means they never read a single medieval saunt’s life, nor any sermons at all, nor any books or exhorations. They’ve read nothing at all. They knew nothing, NOTHING AT ALL, about S.R. Maitland’s works or L. Owst’s pioneering works. Nothing.

And the beat goes on...


124 posted on 05/09/2009 7:37:10 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Petronski
[ Why is that good? Do you prize my lack of information? ]

Because... Rome is filthy with religion..

125 posted on 05/09/2009 7:38:13 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
Christ did not come to form a church(organization) but a family..

And He did! That family is the Catholic Church.

The word church (in greek) does not mean organization..

Christ was not speaking Greek at the time.

126 posted on 05/09/2009 7:39:02 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: hosepipe
Because... Rome is filthy with religion..

I've never been to Rome.

I worship in the Church founded by Christ: the Catholic Church.

127 posted on 05/09/2009 7:40:23 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: vladimir998

What about the anti-Italian bigotry? “Rome this” and “Rome that.”

It’s creepy.


128 posted on 05/09/2009 7:42:58 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski

You wrote:

“What about the anti-Italian bigotry? “Rome this” and “Rome that.” It’s creepy.”

True. There is much that is creepy here. The denial of scholarship. The denial of history. The bizarre projection it is Catholics who invent history when all the history shows that it is the Protestants who have crafted a phony history with a convenient martyrdom complex to support their own novelty, inventions, lack of history and sheer opportunism founded in schism and heresy.

This is all so ably documented by the Protestant Church historian James R. McGoldrick in his book called Baptist Successionism.


129 posted on 05/09/2009 7:55:34 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: muir_redwoods; GiovannaNicoletta
No one owns the franchise; anyone can believe anything they want to about Jesus.
I have yet to meet the person qualified to judge another person’s heartfelt beliefs about Jesus.

Yah'shua told us:
John 7:24 "Do not judge according to appearance,
but judge with righteous judgment."
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
130 posted on 05/10/2009 9:45:52 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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