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Covering up the Real Rock at Georgetown (What Obama was really communicating in his speech)
Insight Scoop ^ | April 16, 2009 | Carl Olson

Posted on 04/17/2009 10:21:05 AM PDT by NYer

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To: stop_fascism
Several of my priests, who are very good men, are willing to give Obama a pass on abortion because they believe he will further the cause of social justice.

Such "good" men are short-sighted idiots. They should take heed to the words of Mother Theresa: "If we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?"


41 posted on 04/17/2009 11:33:51 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Antoninus

Short sighted, yes. Idiots, no.


42 posted on 04/17/2009 11:39:18 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: stop_fascism
Short sighted, yes. Idiots, no.

Perhaps idiot savants, then. It's possible to be brilliant in an incredibly complex field but not realize it's a bad deal when someone is selling you a car with no tires.
43 posted on 04/17/2009 11:42:07 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: Campion

They would probably say that they abhor abortion, and have worked their entire lives to do away with it, and to heal the damage that is done by it. However, it is the law of the United States and neither candidate would do much to change that. On the other hand, Obama heals the wound of racial animosity, understands poverty, and will establish a kinder gentler foreign policy.

I don’t agree, but that seems to be the belief of many sincere Catholics. It doesn’t help to have Servants of Satan like Kmiec beating the drum for Obama.


44 posted on 04/17/2009 11:46:01 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Jim Robinson

And a liar.


45 posted on 04/17/2009 11:48:19 AM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Antoninus

My point is that good people can be beguiled. “Satan’s greatest trick was to convince mankind that he doesn’t exist.” It is similar to the way liberation theology led good men to do great damage to the people they wanted to help.


46 posted on 04/17/2009 11:51:39 AM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: PghBaldy
الاسلام هو شر لا مثيل لها ، ويجب القضاء عليه
47 posted on 04/17/2009 11:52:02 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is an EVIL like no other, and must be ERADICATED)
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To: stop_fascism
My point is that good people can be beguiled.

True. But in my experience, many people let themselves be beguiled because deceived and comfortable beats honest and uncomfortable with a stick.
48 posted on 04/17/2009 11:55:21 AM PDT by Antoninus (Now accepting apologies from repentant Mittens.)
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To: NYer

I called the Rev. Thomas Reese, a senior fellow at the Woodstock Institute at Georgetown University, who was at the speech, as to what he thought.

“It is more for camera quality than anything else,” he surmised. “They don’t want distractions that would make the eye wander. I don’t think this is motivated by theology, but by communications strategy.”

I would agree. It’s been said if you look into a cobra’s eyes, you’re dead. Once you look into their eyes, you become frozen, and they kill you. Much like once you look into Obama’s eyes, the powers that be (whatever they are), have you mentally ‘frozen’. Frankly, your soul may be in peril at that point - not just your life.


49 posted on 04/17/2009 11:55:54 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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To: stop_fascism

good men in this case= bad priest and not catholic


50 posted on 04/17/2009 12:01:35 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: NYer

Mockery, how Jim Jones of him.

So many anti-christs, so little time.

All I want to know is... Did the press office specifically ask for the dais to be covered, or if they did it on their own? When (during the intro), the camera got that high, did you not have stained glass windows? Shall I not believe my eyes on the pics I have of him in front of the light up cross and other pulpits (inc. Pfleger’s, don’t get me started)? What did he ask to be removed at the Blue Mosque? I wouldn’t be surprised if Doug Kmiec himself asked Georgetown to cover the Holy Name.

Did you see this?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/04/wh-no-religious.html

As a commenter points out (same applies to Condi and others who spoke there), that Laura Bush spoke re: US/Afghan Women with muslims there... no covering.

As Father Benedict said on the mystery of vocations, “No one lives the Christian life perfectly. In my life, I’ve known dumb Jesuits, confused Dominicans, proud Capuchins, rich Franciscans, and Salesians who can’t stand small children! I’ve known merciless Sisters of Mercy and uncharitable Missionaries of Charity and foolish Daughters of Wisdom.”


51 posted on 04/17/2009 12:22:21 PM PDT by AliVeritas (No taxation without representation. Government of, for, by the people. Let's roll!)
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To: PghBaldy

Maybe he meant the Islamic Sermon on the Mount.

(57 states)


52 posted on 04/17/2009 12:37:03 PM PDT by AliVeritas (No taxation without representation. Government of, for, by the people. Let's roll!)
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To: NYer

Another one: http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2009/apr/09041704.html


53 posted on 04/17/2009 2:04:34 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: NYer
Georgetown University says it covered over the monogram “IHS”--symbolizing the name of Jesus Christ

How in the world does "IHS" symbolize Jesus?

54 posted on 04/17/2009 2:06:33 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: NYer
Boy, did they screw up.

Turns out "IHS" is something totally different from Jesus...


55 posted on 04/17/2009 2:38:29 PM PDT by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: humblegunner

***How in the world does “IHS” symbolize Jesus?***

The Catholic Encyclopedia says:

IHS

A monogram of the name of Jesus Christ. From the third century the names of our Saviour are sometimes shortened, particularly in Christian inscriptions (IH and XP, for Jesus and Christus). In the next century the “sigla” (chi-rho) occurs not only as an abbreviation but also as a symbol. From the beginning, however, in Christian inscriptions the nomina sacra, or names of Jesus Christ, were shortened by contraction, thus IC and XC or IHS and XPS for Iesous Christos. These Greek monograms continued to be used in Latin during the Middle Ages. Eventually the right meaning was lost, and erroneous interpretation of IHS led to the faulty orthography “Jhesus”. In Latin the learned abbreviation IHC rarely occurs after the Carlovingian era. The monogram became more popular after the twelfth century when St. Bernard insisted much on devotion to the Holy Name of Jesus, and the fourteenth, when the founder of the Jesuati, Blessed John Colombini (d. 1367), usually wore it on his breast. Towards the close of the Middle Ages IHS became a symbol, quite like the chi-rho in the Constantinian period. Sometimes above the H appears a cross and underneath three nails, while the whole figure is surrounded by rays. IHS became the accepted iconographical characteristic of St. Vincent Ferrer (d. 1419) and of St. Bernardine of Siena (d. 1444). The latter holy missionary, at the end of his sermons, was wont to exhibit this monogram devoutly to his audience, for which some blamed him; he was even called before Martin V. St. Ignatius of Loyola adopted the monogram in his seal as general of the Society of Jesus (1541), and thus it became the emblem of his institute. IHS was sometimes wrongly understood as “Jesus Hominum (or Hierosolymae) Salvator”, i.e. Jesus, the Saviour of men (or of Jerusalem=Hierosolyma).


56 posted on 04/17/2009 3:00:16 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: NYer

Shame on them.


57 posted on 04/17/2009 4:14:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: shibumi

And don’t forget his ties and friendship with the AMerican muzlim leader...

http://hereticdhammasangha.wordpress.com/2008/03/29/barack-obama-anti-semitic/


58 posted on 04/17/2009 7:23:52 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: stop_fascism
He wants to divide the Catholic church between real catholics and those who claim to be catholic but follow few of the church’s teachings. He is using social justice to drive a wedge into the church. So far, he was been very successful. Several of my priests, who are very good men, are willing to give Obama a pass on abortion because they believe he will further the cause of social justice.

Social justice??? You mean special rights for homos and voting rights of illegal Mexican aliens...

How do you know you are the real Catholic when you have one 'Holy Father' kissing a Koran and another one puddle jumping around the world visiting mosques???

59 posted on 04/17/2009 7:31:28 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: NYer

Here is what came to my mind.....

Psa 11:3 if the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”

After reading his staff’s logic of this speech, in the WSJ article,

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123991149634726345.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

it is clear the whole thing is cockeyed goofy thinking, and he will end up destroying this country, if God allows it.....

Everything with him is opposite day and alternate universe, evil is good and good, evil....bitter is sweet and sweet, bitter....


60 posted on 04/17/2009 7:34:35 PM PDT by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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