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HOW SOME ANTI-MORMONS MIS USE THE TRUTH. (OPEN)
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Posted on 03/23/2009 10:27:54 AM PDT by fproy2222

I am tired of how some anti-Mormons here at FR, and other places, mis-use the history and teachings of my Church.

This was posted:::::::::

“”””” President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); “””””

Here is the part of the article not posted for you and as you read it, you will find that it does not say the things about my church that is implued by leaving out large parts of the text.

Please note, the address is to us, the LDS people, from one of the church leaders at the time, telling us that we are not doing what we should and that we must do better.

In no way is President Taylor saying what the original post says he is saying..

Notice how the “…” jump the first part of the post into another sentence and into another thought.

The information is taken out of context and turned into an untruth.

I have put “{{}}” around the parts posted to make it easer to see the misuse of this document.

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We have first to learn submission to the will of God ourselves, through various trials, persecutions, and the development of our weaknesses and imperfections, and thereby learn to appreciate the goodness and blessings that flow from him. We must see that we ourselves first learn obedience, and then teach others. But how can we teach others a lesson which we have not learned ourselves?

There is not nation now that acknowledges that hand of God; there is not a king, potentate, nor ruler that acknowledges his jurisdiction. We talk about {{ Christianity }}, but it {{ is a perfect pack of nonsense }}. Men talk about civilization; but I do not want to say much about that, for I have seen enough of it. Myself and hundreds of the Elders around me have seen its pomp, parade, and glory; and what is it? It is a sounding brass and a tinkling symbol; it is as corrupt as hell; {{ and the Devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work that the Christianity of the nineteenth century. }}

(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols. [London: Latter-day Saints' Book Depot, 1854-1886], 6: 167.)

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To: greyfoxx39
Thank you so much for your encouragements, dear sister in Christ!
401 posted on 03/27/2009 8:00:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Religion Moderator
So why keep bringing up a single massacre?

Did I not say "I think" or "my opinion"?

I thought this was OK in these open threads.


There is STILL a picture of a PIG sent by RESTORNU on this thread.

The MORMONS have a HISTORY of calling anyone who standas up to them: Pigs - as in...

"Don't cast your pearls before swine."

"Hosing the pigs..." ALSO is a documented record on FR.

402 posted on 03/27/2009 8:41:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
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403 posted on 03/27/2009 11:37:23 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Recession-Your neighbor loses his job, Depression-you lost your job, Recovery-Obama loses HIS job.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Ninja Placemarker


404 posted on 03/27/2009 3:51:11 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I, El Rushbo -- and I say this happily -- have hijacked Obama's honeymoon.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

405 posted on 03/27/2009 3:54:27 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: Godzilla
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406 posted on 03/27/2009 6:55:13 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

ROTFL!


407 posted on 03/27/2009 7:00:54 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Recession-Your neighbor loses his job, Depression-you lost your job, Recovery-Obama loses HIS job.)
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To: reaganaut
The power of the force only works on the weak minded.


408 posted on 03/27/2009 7:06:32 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: Godzilla

The power of the force only works on the weak minded.


“these are not the droids you are looking for”


409 posted on 03/27/2009 7:20:51 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

Happy Cat Lernz Nicoteneus (John 3)
1 Naow dis guy Nicoteneus iz a lvl 64 Pharisee and leeds teh joos.

2 He comez to teh Happy Cat in teh nites and he sez “We knoes u comez frum teh Ceiling Kitteh and we knoes u pwn.”

3 An Happy Cat sed, “Ceiling Kitteh has invisible haus, u gots 2 borned agen 2 see it.”

4 Nicoteneus sez, “o rly, d00d? How doez dat werk?”

5 Happy Cat sez, “is da truth, u hafta be born agen wif waterz an spiritz an stuffs.

6 Flesh givez birf 2 flesh, but teh spirit gives birf to spirit, k?

7 Y r u so konfoozled?

8 Is lyke wind, it doz its own stufs an u dunno how it werks, but is all ok, amirite? Is like that!”

9 Nicoteneus sez, “I doez not get it.” :(

10 “Den ur not gud teecher,” sed Happy Cat . “Lez flame tnak his b4se!”

11 “Ok, iz da twoof. We says sum stuff dat we sawed, and teh peeplez is still konfoozled.

12 I ben talkin bout teh stuffs on urf and ur still lyke, ‘whut?’ so whut bout Ceiling an stuffs?

13 I iz da only wan whos gone to Ceiling so u haves 2 trusts me, mkay?

14 I gots 2 b lifteded up lyke Moses an his snakedy thingy,

15 coz if u beleeves ur not gon be ded! Eternal lifes, u can has it!

16 So liek teh Ceiling Kitteh lieks teh ppl lots and he sez ‘Oh hai I givez u me only kitteh and ifs u purrz wit him u wont evr diez no moar, k?’

17 Cuz teh Ceiling Kitteh not snd hiz son 2 take all yur cookies, but so u cud maek moar cookies 4EVAR!

18 U beleevz him u getz cheezburgrs, but els you get invisibul error.

19 Lytes ar on now heer, but catzes no caer cuz they can see wit no lyte anyway.

20 Invisibul error no liek lyte, him no liek be seed.21 Good kitteh no skeered of lyte, cuz himz not messin up.”


410 posted on 03/27/2009 8:28:26 PM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: Godzilla

ROFL. And it makes more sense then the BOM.


411 posted on 03/27/2009 8:58:12 PM PDT by reaganaut (ex-mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

http://www.lolcatbible.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

forgot the reference


412 posted on 03/28/2009 7:41:57 AM PDT by Godzilla (If the first step in an argument is wrong everything that follows is wrong. ~C.S. Lewis, The Problem)
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To: Godzilla

I’s wuvs teh Happy Cat...

:)


413 posted on 03/29/2009 1:08:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Syncro
restornu, we're tired of you posting how mean and cruel Christians are on this site, when you continue to lie and deceive and make false accusations about posters here.

After the brief (over 2000 replies is NOT 'brief!) Public Service Announcement - we now return you to our regular network programing.



415 posted on 03/31/2009 1:45:49 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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416 posted on 03/31/2009 1:48:36 PM PDT by Godzilla (Galatians 4:16 So iz i ur enemi now becz i tellded u teh troof?)
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To: Syncro
This thread is in the Religion Forum.

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

417 posted on 03/31/2009 8:07:57 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Religion Moderator
Oh, OK.

I didn't notice it was in the Religion Forum and that rule wasn't that apparent to me while reading the thread.

Thank you.

418 posted on 03/31/2009 9:38:03 PM PDT by Syncro (Qui non intelligit, aut taceat, aut discat)
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