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To: Elsie

It appears that being wrong about Mormons is endemic among sectarian Christians. BTW Elsie, I have question for you. What Bible did Peter and the ancient apostles use to lead the Church in their time? What Bible did Jesus preach from?
Which Bible verse told Peter that the gospel should be extended to Cornelius and the Gentiles? What passage witnessed to John the Baptist that he baptized the Lamb of God? What Bible passage told Paul that Jesus is Lord? What Bible verse told Peter that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God? Revelation was the foundation of the Church anciently. Thus it is today in the Restored Church.

If I recall what the Bible says, it was the Pharisees who used their scriptures to try to disprove living oracles of God. That’s an all too familiar situation today as sectarians use their Bible to disprove the living oracles who speak for God today. Jews today use the same scriptures you do to support their position that the Messiah has not yet come. People will interpret the book however they wish.

You have more in common with Annas and Caiaphas than you do with Peter or Paul. It will always be the case that prophets of God will be opposed by people like you who place the written word before the Living Word in precedence.

If you would like to test my knowledge of scripture, I would invite you to debate me at www.spamlds.org. How confident are you? If you’re interested, just contact me and we’ll decide the terms for the debate. I assure you that you’ll be treated fairly and your dignity will be respected. How about it?


167 posted on 03/16/2009 7:34:50 PM PDT by spamlds ('Truth is not a tactic')
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To: spamlds; All
Interesting argument, not new, but interesting and I would certainly like to see more since it does so much good for us.

However I have to wonder how long one who seems to be almost giddy in awaiting the failure of the US to show us heretics up and is using FreeRepublic to drive “victims” and other traffic to his own blog will last around here before the purple screen of shame is tied to their handle...

177 posted on 03/17/2009 3:29:33 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: spamlds
If you would like to test my knowledge of scripture, I would invite you to debate me at www.spamlds.org.

So, if I read you right, you are saying that we should NOT used the BIBLE to understand false doctrine?

And then are you saying that we SHOULD use LDS 'scripture' to understand TRUE doctrine?

I am truly confused as to the logic of this!

217 posted on 03/17/2009 10:48:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: spamlds
If you would like to test my knowledge of scripture, I would invite you to debate me at www.spamlds.org.

So, if I read you right, you are saying that we should NOT used the BIBLE to understand false doctrine?

And then are you saying that we SHOULD use LDS 'scripture' to understand TRUE doctrine?

I am truly confused as to the logic of this!

218 posted on 03/17/2009 10:48:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: spamlds
 
It will always be the case that prophets of God will be opposed by people like you who place the written word before the Living Word in precedence.
 
I see where you are coming from...
 



 
I defer to the Words of Wisdom from one of your late Prophets:
 

In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

 

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)


219 posted on 03/17/2009 10:52:43 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: spamlds
If you would like to test my knowledge of scripture, I would invite you to debate me at www.spamlds.org.

So, if I read you right, you are saying that we should NOT used the BIBLE to understand false doctrine?

And then are you saying that we SHOULD use LDS 'scripture' to understand TRUE doctrine?

I am truly confused as to the logic of this!

222 posted on 03/17/2009 11:06:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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