God Exists, and He's Mormon

The American Spectator ^ | 3/16/2009 | Jeremy Lott

[Alex Murphy]

"God exists, and he's American" is the judgment of Dr. Milton Glass, fictional nuclear physicist from the acclaimed Alan Moore-Dave Gibbons comic Watchmen, when he learns that Jon Osterman, has come back from the dead. Osterman disputes Glass's judgment, but the new deity's protest rings as hollow as his promise of fealty to his first girlfriend.

In the story, Osterman dies in a freak lab accident that is the stuff of countless superhero origin stories. It utterly obliterates his body but leaves his mind intact and powerful. Osterman then re-creates himself from scratch. He is not just reborn but transfigured and renamed, as the world's oddest crime fighter: Dr. Manhattan. By the end of the tale, Manhattan even talks of Osterman as a different person.

Obviously, Dr. Manhattan looks different. He has the skin of a Smurf, the body of a Greek god. He crackles with energy and can manipulate other matter with the same ease that he reconstructed himself. Less obviously: His changed perceptions bracket him off from the rest of mankind. He can see things at the molecular level but is puzzled by basic human emotions and conventions. His women complain that they can't connect with him and he often walks around in his rebirthday suit. He perceives time differently as well -- the future and the past run together.

Dr. Manhattan is clearly a sort of god. After the mystery at the heart of Watchmen is resolved, he professes a newfound fondness for human life and muses, "perhaps I'll create some" -- elsewhere in the universe. But what sort of a god is he?

Enter: irony. One group that is not likely to come out in great numbers to see the new film Watchmen is members in good standing of the

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Here you go. The REAL Book of Abraham

http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html

[Graybeard58]

Often it seems that no matter what you say, somebody will get their nose out of joint.

It’s a beautiful day that God has made, here in central Illinois anyway. If you’re knee deep in snow where you are, you may be offended by that.

[Graybeard58]

The poster who claimed that God needed him as a friend seems to have left but the implication seemed to be that God was brought down to human level or that man can be brought to God level...or both.

I know that I’m not a co equal of God, nor will I ever be. Lucifer wanted that and we know the rest of that story.

[Vroomfondel]

Thanks for the link.

[Stourme]

We're trying to introduce you to the Shepherd.,

Yes, but are you trying to introduce us to the Shepherd that teaches people to baptize babies.

Or

Are you trying to introduce us to that other Shepherd that teaches that infant baptism is false doctrine???

Which Shepherd are you trying to introduce me to?

[colorcountry]

It doesn’t matter.

It seems that all Mormons have been sent out today to ask the baptism question.

What is baptism? If you answer that question for me, then we might be able to start to have a conversation about it.

[reaganaut]

[greyfoxx39]

It occurs to me that all the rabid posts by the mormons today are an effort to call attention away from last night's Big Love episode in which the temple ceremony is shown.

 

With that in mind, I thought I'd do the service of providing the link to the show. This is not YouTube, it appears the YouTube links are being taken down as soon as they appear.

 

Enjoy!

Click Here

[L,TOWM]

No, Jesus will do just fine at saving me. You, on the other hand...

[L,TOWM]

Its called free speech. Right up there with freedom of religion — even whacked out cults like Scientology, Islam, and Mormonism.

[L,TOWM]

Bigotry takes on a lot of forms. Smug disrespect is one of them.

Unless y'all get figured out who Jesus REALLY is before this life passes, you will have much worse waiting for you...

[L,TOWM]

Yeah, pretty much. I will give the anglicans props for one thing, though — the next time one of ‘em shows up on my door selling their cult will be the first time.

[Godzilla]

Bigotry takes on a lot of forms. Smug disrespect is one of them. This article will be used to provide intellectual justification for intolerance.

Here are his so-called rules
1..Use of non-authoritative sources and out-of-context quotations
2. Attack the story of the Book of Mormon's origin, not its contents
3. Distort Mormon doctrines by comparing them to the unscriptural teachings of Christian creeds
4. When all else fails, lie!
5. Use slander, personal attacks, and character assassination
6. Accuse your opponent of doing the very thing you are doing
Well he's got #5 and 6 down pretty well, doesn't he.

[reaganaut]

God needs us????

[reaganaut]

I guess Smithmas came early this year.

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Lol. I remember families in my ward celebrating JS birthday (December 23) with “birthday parties” and then not really doing much for Christmas. Even as an LDSer I thought that was wrong.

[reaganaut]

I think the movie is still in theaters.

[restornu]

Ozokerite Boryslaw

[restornu]

those who have the Lord with them dont need to be ulgy and nasty that is the MO of the devil to tear down malign and try to destroy!

Children of the Lord are councel to maginfy, uplife, and build

[Elsie]

You know full well what we believe but, here goes:

 

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Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 

 

 

THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541

 

 

1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
   
2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
   
3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
   
4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
   
5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
   
6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
   
7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
   
8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
   
9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
   
10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
    
11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
    
12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
    
13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

 

 

 

Definitions of creed:

• From the Latin word "credere" -- to believe. A short statement of religious belief, usually motivated by a desire to emphasize church teaching as opposed to a heresy.
• A formal summary of religious belief; an authoritative statement of doctrine
• Any system of principles or beliefs
• Religious doctrine: the written body of teachings of a religious group that are generally accepted by that group
• A creed is a statement or confession of belief — usually religious belief — or faith.
• A statement of religious beliefs agreed by the church to be true.
• A system of religious beliefs, including moral or ethical beliefs about right and wrong, that are sincerely held with the strength of traditional religious views.
• A statement of faith binding upon a given religious body.
• A statement of faith. 
• A formal statement of religious belief/proclamation of faith 

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Ya gotta love that...AND SO FORTH phrase!

 

[Elsie]

 

Watch out for Calvinists around here, though.

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Welcome to Mormonism 101

 

We'll begin in a minute.

 

In the mean time, you may enjoy the art that is on our walls.

 

 

 

 

 

You may think some of our doctrine a bit shifty; but if you study it real close in one area, it will be quite steady.

 

Please ignore any shifting you THINK you observe elsewhere, for if you look at THAT area; it, too, will become fixed.