Posted on 02/28/2009 5:28:01 AM PST by fproy2222
I have been told, here at FR, that God only creates lesser beings.
Is this because he chooses not to create someone equal to Himself, or is God unable to create someone equal to Himself?
Yes
I have a warped sense of humor : )
(It probably doesn’t even exist. ;^)
I exist, I am not sure about you though, the Turing test results haven't come back.
that dichotomy just isn’t there— “the Lord is my shepherd...”Ps. 23; “vengeance is mine, I will repay.” Rom. 12:19
Hmmm...
"Is this because he chooses not to create someone equal to Himself, or is God unable to create someone equal to Himself?
Gen 1:26,27, "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them."
It says there in Gen 1, that God made man in His image and likeness. That means man is a trinity also and equal, unless in our image and likeness means something inferior and contrary to what was stated. Jesus acknowledged the clear meaning of Gen 1:26,27 in John 10:33-36"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'[Psalm 82:6]? If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came—and the Scripture cannot be broken— what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?"
[Can God create another God?]
Well, Mitt thinks he’s a God.
But better still, I am a God, so I guess you are right (though I distrust your mortal judgement).
What is your thinking, Fproy, about your own questions?
What think you?
I’ve not seen your answer, unless I somehow missed it. If so, please let me know.
Thanks,
BR
Never the less, let me help. Never tempt or mock the Lord thy God.
It's safe that way.
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Not so. Matt 7:7,8, "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened.
If one does not know the mind of God, one does not know the Holy Spirit, and could never follow the command in Matt 5:48, "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
Not so, else God wouldn't have sovereignty of will, otherwise known as free will. His decision not to do these things does not mean He can not.
The 4 extended dimensions that are characteristic of this universe have a radius that is expanding from ~ the Planck length into the vacuum. That's because, the universe appears as a phase change of the energy contained in the vacuum. ...as a steam bubble appears in a pot of boiling water. Alternatively, an equivalent way of looking at it is that the 4 extended dimensions are less than the Planck length and shrinking into the vacuum. ... a steam bubble shrinking back into the liquid phase...
Saying that one can return to the same point at a later time after heading out in any direction of space, would mean the space had positive curvature and would collapse back onto itself at a later date. Space itself appears to be very close to flat, which means the travel time would be infinite for such a journey. Space in this case simply dissipates back into the vacuum. Keep in mind that the total energy of the universe at all times is zero, just as in hte vacuum. That means the positive energy of the "stuff" and the negative energy of the gravitational field total up to zero at all times.
“If I knew God I’d be Him.” —Joseph Albo, 16th century.
In the ten commandments Our Heavenly Father told all of us
1= "You shall have no other gods before Me."
It is a small "g" and not part of the Godhead; Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Abraham 3
15 And the Lord said unto me: Abraham, I show these things unto thee before ye go into Egypt, that ye may declare all these words.
16 If two things exist, and there be one above the other, there shall be greater things above them; therefore Kolob is the greatest of all the Kokaubeam that thou hast seen, because it is nearest unto me.
17 Now, if there be two things, one above the other, and the moon be above the earth, then it may be that a planet or a star may exist above it; and there is nothing that the Lord thy God shall take in his heart to do but what he will do it.
18 Howbeit that he made the greater star; as, also, if there be two spirits, and one shall be more intelligent than the other, yet these two spirits, notwithstanding one is more intelligent than the other, have no beginning; they existed before, they shall have no end, they shall exist after, for they are gnolaum, or eternal.
19 And the Lord said unto me: These two facts do exist, that there are two spirits, one being more intelligent than the other; there shall be another more intelligent than they; I am the Lord thy God, I am more intelligent than they all.
I essentially agree with all your points. I did like this nugget “That’s because, the universe appears as a phase change of the energy contained in the vacuum.” That ties in nicely with Laughlins idea that the wavefunction collapse is a phase change.
God is not a created being. He exists beyond time.
He is also consistent with Himself... the same yesterday, today, and forever. And He keeps His word.
Your question is very silly, along the lines of a falling tree’s noise in an empty wood... Or, could God make 2 + 2 = 5?
However, IANAT (I am not a theologian) whatever God creates, would be a created thing, whereas God exists but was not created. So, no.
There is no name above or beside Him.
However, IANAT (I am not a theologian) whatever God creates, would be a created thing, whereas God exists but was not created. So, no.
There is no name above or beside Him
Spirits are not created, spirits are eternal the body is created by the Lord.
D&C 26
26 The Spirit of truth is of God. I am the Spirit of truth, and John bore record of me, saying: He received a fulness of truth, yea, even of all truth;
27 And no man receiveth a fulness unless he keepeth his commandments.
28 He that keepeth his commandments receiveth truth and light, until he is glorified in truth and knoweth all things.
29 Man was also in the beginning with God. Intelligence, or the light of truth, was not created or made, neither indeed can be.
30 All truth is independent in that sphere in which God has placed it, to act for itself, as all intelligence also; otherwise there is no existence.
31 Behold, here is the agency of man, and here is the condemnation of man; because that which was from the beginning is plainly manifest unto them, and they receive not the light.
32 And every man whose spirit receiveth not the light is under condemnation.
33 For man is spirit. The elements are eternal, and spirit and element, inseparably connected, receive a fulness of joy;
34 And when separated, man cannot receive a fulness of joy.
35 The elements are the tabernacle of God; yea, man is the tabernacle of God, even temples; and whatsoever temple is defiled, God shall destroy that temple.
36 The glory of God is intelligence, or, in other words, light and truth.
37 Light and truth forsake that evil one.
38 Every spirit of man was innocent in the beginning; and God having redeemed man from the fall, men became again, in their infant state, innocent before God.
He cannot create another God like Him.
The reason is that a created being is a finite being, it has a starting point. God has always existed.
And only the twisted mind of man might take this to be a weakness of God rather than a logical impossibility.
You're Goddamn right he can! God can do anything! :)
Those were a stretch. Here’s a clearer verse.
Romans 11:33-34 (New American Standard Bible)
33Oh, the depth of (A)the riches both of the (B)wisdom and knowledge of God! (C)How unsearchable are His judgments and unfathomable His ways!
34For (D)WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD, OR WHO BECAME HIS COUNSELOR?
According to Mormonism, yet. But they are told not to talk about her out of respect.
LDS Hymn (read the lyrics)
O My Father
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Lyrics
O my Father, thou that dwellest
In the high and glorious place,
When shall I regain thy presence
And again behold thy face?
In thy holy habitation,
Did my spirit once reside?
In my first primeval childhood
Was I nurtured near thy side?
For a wise and glorious purpose
Thou hast placed me here on earth
And withheld the recollection
Of my former friends and birth;
Yet ofttimes a secret something
Whispered, “You’re a stranger here,”
And I felt that I had wandered
From a more exalted sphere.
I had learned to call thee Father,
Thru thy Spirit from on high,
But, until the key of knowledge
Was restored, I knew not why.
In the heav’ns are parents single?
No, the thought makes reason stare!
Truth is reason; truth eternal
Tells me I’ve a mother there.
When I leave this frail existence,
When I lay this mortal by,
Father, Mother, may I meet you
In your royal courts on high?
Then, at length, when I’ve completed
All you sent me forth to do,
With your mutual approbation
Let me come and dwell with you.
Text: Eliza R. Snow
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