Posted on 02/21/2009 6:09:00 AM PST by kindred
FOR THE PROPHECY CAME NOT IN OLD TIME BY THE WILL OF MAN: BUT HOLY MEN OF GOD SPAKE AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST. O FOOLS, AND SLOW OF HEART TO BELIEVE ALL THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN-Lk 24:25. However, believing there is a God and acknowledging the Bible is the Word of God does not save a person. A person needs to admit they are a sinner, repent, and receive Jesus Christ as their only hope of being saved. This is done by faith (or trust).
Let's prove the Bible is true and we are nearing the end of the last generation before Christ returns.
1. The Jewish people would be scattered worldwide; yet Israel would become a nation again after a long time and at a time the Bible calls the "latter days"-ref Isa 66:8; Mic 5:3; Ezek 38:8. Against what appeared to be impossible odds, this prophecy has been fulfilled. It happened as predicted on May 14, 1948 after about 2500 years. Thats 1 out of 1. Note: Israel was destroyed in approximately 721 B.C. and Judah about 135 years later. Since that time, approximately fourteen different peoples have possessed the land of Israel. Yet as the Bible said, the nation of Israel would be reborn. The rebirth of Israel was a key sign, indicating we had entered a time period called the "latter days." It was the beginning of a countdown leading to the Tribulation and culminating with the Battle of Armageddon and the return of Jesus. Along with the fulfillment of this crucial event are over 360 prophecies that would all come together, so we might recognize that the Tribulation is very close at hand. Some of these are listed here. Yet the Bible foretells that most people would not believe these things, despite the overwhelming evidence of the signs from Gods Word being fulfilled exactly as predicted. As people refused to believe the flood was coming in Noahs time, so people today willingly choose to disregard the signs of the times.
2. Israel shall be brought forth in one day, at once-ref Isa 66:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. Thats 2 out of 2. Note: On Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the U.N. approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. On the morning of May 14, 1948 (the last day of the British mandate), a meeting of the Peoples Council took place in Israel to decide on the name of the state and to finalize the declaration. At precisely 4 pm, the proclamation ceremony began at the Tel Aviv museum. The 979 Hebrew words of the Scroll of Independence were read. All stood, and the scroll was adopted. The notorious White Paper, issued by the British in 1930 restricting Jewish immigration, was declared null and void. Members of the Peoples Council signed the proclamation. David Ben-Gurion rapped his gavel, declaring, "The State of Israel is established. This meeting is ended." Israel was brought forth as a nation in one day, at once, exactly as predicted. At midnight, the British soldiers and high commissioner would leave. President Truman was swift in announcing U.S. recognition of Israel. The following morning, on May 15, Israel was under attack by the Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian, and Iraqi forces.
3. Israel would be brought forth (or reborn) "out of the nations"-Ezek 38:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. Thats 3 out of 3. Note: As previously stated, on Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the "United Nations" approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. This prophecy was perfectly fulfilled. Consider, for centuries the land of Israel had been occupied by many nations. Israel was "brought forth out of the nations"the children of Israel from many nations have been returning to their ancient homeland.
4. Israel must regain the city of Jerusalem-Joel 2:32; Isa 28:14; Ezek 22:19. This happened just as predicted in 1967. Thats 4 out of 4. Note: The Bible gives us two methods so we would know the time we are in. One is by Israels rebirth. The other, by a precise line of events that would all come together at one time. Israel was reborn on May 14th, 1948. The Bible indicates that from Israels rebirth a generation would not pass till all be fulfilled. We are not setting any date; however, it seems clear from Israels rebirth and the signs of the times that we are living in the generation in which the Rapture and Tribulation will come and catch most people by surprise. Are you ready?
5. The Christian church at the time of the end would be lukewarm, neither cold nor hot for Jesus. Prophecy fulfilled. Thats 5 out of 5. Note: God will spew them out. Many ministers and people that call themselves a Christian will not be going to heaven. The Bible tells usyou have acquired wealth, but your true condition is wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked and you dont know it-Rev 3:14-22. This is todays church. Most preachers use little Scripture, but lots of worldly stories. Many sing a great deal, but put little emphasis on repentance, obeying, serving, and fearing God, on the fruits of the Spirit, Bible prophecy, water baptism by immersion, and studying your Bible faithfully every day. Many are only entertainment centers that teach what their members want to hear. Many (so-called Christians) are so lukewarm or dead, they dont even bring their Bibles with them to the house of God. Some famous ministers and Bible schools think this is the best church age ever, yet the Bible clearly shows it is the worst and most deceived.
6. The Bible gives us over 50 descriptions about the people at the time of the end. These fit the people of today perfectly, but did not fit the people of fifty years ago. Here are some:
A. Some would depart from the faith and go into devil worship-1 Tim 4:1. This is perfect.
B. People would mock about the last days and not believe-2 Pe 3:3; Jude 18.
C. People would become lovers of themselves-2 Tim 3:1,2. Remember the TV commercials"I do it for me"?
D. People would be disobeying their parents-2 Tim 3:1,2.
E. People would be grateful for nothing-2 Tim 3:1,2.
F. Homosexuality would increase-Lk 17:28,30; ref Gen 19:5; Ro 1:24,26,27.
G. People would be without self-control in sex-2 Tim 3:1,2,6; Rev 9:21, Lk 17:28,30; Jude 7. Is this not the great sex generation?
H. People would love pleasures more than God-2 Tim 3:1,2,4. This is true. Shall we go on a picnic, watch football, or sleep. Church?we can go another time. Our American motto "In God we trust" has become a joke. Remember, these were all predicted centuries ago as part of the signs that we are at the time of the end.
I. People would be taking drugs-Rev 9:21. The Greek word for sorceries, in Rev 9:21, means pharmaceuticals or drugs. Gods Word is 100% right on every one. Thats 6 out of 6. How could you have any doubts at this point? Note: Fifty years ago, many people seldom locked their doors at night. There was little or no profanity on television, radio, or in the movies. One of the biggest problems in public school was gum chewing. Those days are long gone.
7. There would be weapons that could destroy the world-Mk 13:20; Rev 6:8; Rev 9:18; Zech 14:8,12. Incredibly, this prophecy was written in the days of spears and arrows, yet today it is true. Thats 7 out of 7. Note: It is estimated that the combined nuclear arsenals of the USA and Russia (as of the year 2004) could kill every living thing on earth 6 times over.
8. The Gospel must be published in all the world-Mk 13:10. This seemingly impossible prophecy was written when there was no printing press, but today it is true. That's 8 out of 8. Note: In this last generation, to our knowledge, the Gospel is being published (or is about to be published) in the primary language of every nation of the world or "among all nations." In addition, the Gospel is available by short-wave radio nearly everywhere in the world.
9. In the "latter days" when Israel was once again a nation, there would be a great military power to the extreme north of Israel in the land of Magog (which is modern-day Russia)-Ezek 38:2-4,8,15,16. Incredible. Thats 9 out of 9. Note: How could the Bible have foretold the location of this nation, facts about its military, and even the time period it would come to pass? As was already said in Lk 24:25-O FOOLS, AND SLOW OF HEART TO BELIEVE ALL THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN.
10. There would be a nation to the far east of Israel, to the end of the earth. This nation would have an army of 200 million. This is astounding. How could the Bible have told the location of a nation and given such a huge figure regarding the size of its army nearly 2000 years ago? China has boasted that they could field an army of this exact figure. Thats 10 out of 10.
11. There would be an economic alliance of the nations of the Old Roman Empire. It would have a military capability. This is an exact description of the European Economic Community today (the EEC), which has already adopted the one-currency system for many of their member nations. It is written, IN THE DAYS OF THESE KINGS (these nations, which is now) SHALL THE GOD OF HEAVEN SET UP A KINGDOM-Dan 2:44. Thats 11 out of 11. We have just reached the point that seemed impossible11 perfect predictions made thousands of years agowith God nothing is impossible. Certainly, at this point, even the biggest skeptic should see the Bible is true, there is a God, and we are nearing the time of the end.
About 22 prophecies in 11 sets have been given, all perfect and all written centuries ago. The chance that any person could do this 2000 years into the future is not possible. The Bible is the Word of God, and we have just proved it. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Repent and get baptized by full immersion. Read and obey the Gospel. God loves you. He is not willing that any should perish, yet many do. The Rapture is close. Most people are not ready and will not be taken. However, "YOU" cannot say you did not know. Know and understand, Mt 16:26-WHAT IS A MAN PROFITED, IF HE SHALL GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD, AND LOSE HIS OWN SOUL? OR WHAT SHALL A MAN GIVE IN
Ah, futurist math. The only difference between it an real math is that it changes ever time one of these dates comes and goes.
The most important sign in Matthew has to be the restoration of the Jews to the land in the rebirth of Israel. Even the figure of speech fig tree´ has been a historic symbol of national Israel. When the Jewish people, after nearly 2,000 years of exile, under relentless persecution, became a nation again on 14 May 1948 the fig tree´ put forth its first leaves. Jesus said that this would indicate that He was at the door,´ ready to return. Then He said, Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place´ (Matthew 24:34, NASB). What generation? Obviously, in context, the generation that would see the signschief among them the rebirth of Israel. A generation in the Bible is something like forty years. If this is a correct deduction, then within forty years or so of 1948, all these things could take place. Many scholars who have studied Bible prophecy all their lives believe that this is so. (Hal Lindsey, 1970)"We're the generation that saw the fig tree bud forth, as Israel became a nation again in 1948. As a rule, a generation in the Bible lasts 40 years. ... Forty years after 1948 would bring us to 1988." (Chuck Smith, 1978)
The endless interpretations and speculations of man, especially newly invented doctrines that have no history in the Church, those I do not take seriously for a minute.Newly invented????
Newly invented, by comparison to the history of the church. Dispensationalism dates from the first half of the 19th century.
Matthew 24:30 and Revelation 19:11-21 must somehow be understood to represent Christ coming mysteriously through the Roman army which conquered Jerusalem in A.D 70.
Why is that a stretch? God sent the Assyrians and Babylonians against Samaria and Judah.
12-21-12 also my 30th wedding anniversary
Chapter and verse, s'il vous plait?
Too bad some folks don't get it, and are looking for a carnal redemption.
Chapter and verse, s'il vous plait?And not from a gnostic gospel.
You seem to cherry pick my comment to beat me up with it. Lets look at what else I posted, in the same post.
My original comment about 2012 was just a thought that I have had, in using other than biblical "prophesy". Another thought I've had is that Israel became a nation in 1948. Psalms 90 tells us that a man shall live (a generation) 3 score and 10, or even 4 score. So 70-80 years. 1948+70 years = 2018. That would be if your holding to a generation being 70 years, and timelining it out. Now subtract 7 years for the tribulation, because if your a person who holds to the idea of a rapture, the rapture and second coming are different events. Whether the trib starts as soon as April or June of this year or not until 2018, doesn't really matter. Time is running out for the harvest. The storm clouds are gathering.
When I posted my "thoughts" I think it was pretty clear that they are thoughts, not something I absolutely hold to dogmatically. I posted that whether the trib starts in April 2009 or 2018... Pretty well shows I'm pretty loose on dates. You also totally avoid the MOST important part. The part where I mention that time is running out for the harvest.
2000 years ago we were told to be on the lookout for Christs return, as if it could happen today. Our lives aren't about living comfy lives in 3000 sq ft homes, with 2 cars, and 50" tvs. We are to be changing lives. Sharing the Good News, that others might believe. Its not wrong to have those things, but they're not why we're here. IF you KNEW Christ were to return next week, how would that change your prayer life? Who would you call to meet for lunch or dinner, to share the gospel?
Its easy and convenient to have the attitude that Christ has been gone for 2000 years and might not come back for another 1000. It allows us to live OUR lives. Believing that our "ministries" at church are "Gods" work. Gods work is reaching others for Christ.
[Amos 9:9] For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
Yup....they don't know....but He does!
Christ himself taught that 2 would be working in a field, and one taken away. Once in Matthew and once in Luke.
1Thessalonians 4 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
Sounds like a rapture, or taking away to me.
1 Corinthians 15 talks about the same thing.
4 times talking about a sudden taking away.
Now the only thing left is when it happens.
Matthew 24
42"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. 45"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47I tell you the truth, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, 'My master is staying away a long time,' 49and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Pretty much means it doesn't matter "when" we think it will happen. we should always live as if it were today.
Again the time of testing: capture of Jerusalem with the return We are at the door ; lookup ! The time of testing is forty years: 30 CE + 40 years = 70 CE
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
of the Temple Mount to the Evil One : 1967-68 + 40 years = 2007-2008.
This generation ala Matthew 24:34.
Not sure about the testing part. Where is that in the Bible?
Again the time of testing: capture of Jerusalem with the return of the Temple Mount to the Evil One : 1967-68 + 40 years = 2007-2008.
There is nothing about capture of Jerusalem wrt the start of the generation time period. It's simply another discredited theory of the futurists.
Besides, it's already 2009.
We are at the door ; lookup !
This has been true for 2000 years. Christ can return at any moment. It is folly, therefore, to suggest you can time it with your Israel-centric timepiece.
The problem with your analysis is that your are using the wrong verses to figure out what a generation is in the Bible.
A more appropriate verse for this situation would be Numbers 32:13, "So the Lord's anger was aroused against Israel, and He made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation that had done evil in the sight of the Lord was gone."
Forty years has to do with the judgment of that generation. "This generation" of Matthew 24:34 is speaking of the generation of the children of Israel in the 1st century who rejected Messiah and had Him put to death. "And all the people answered and said, 'His blood be on us and on our children.'" (Matt. 27:25).
Lindsey and Smith had the correct timing. Their error was that they were off by nineteen hundred and ten years or so as to when to apply the timing.
When I posted my "thoughts" I think it was pretty clear that they are thoughts, not something I absolutely hold to dogmatically.
Then consider my comments as more information by which you may refine your thoughts.
IF you KNEW Christ were to return next week, how would that change your prayer life? Who would you call to meet for lunch or dinner, to share the gospel?
But we don't and still we should. That's why schemes based on calculations about modern, secular Israel as some indicator for Jesus' return are so detrimental to the life of the Church.
“Newly invented, by comparison to the history of the church. Dispensationalism dates from the first half of the 19th century.”
And Preterism (Lee N. Field’s probable poison) was invented by Jesuit Luis De Alcasar during the Counter Reformation - unless you want to count Hymenaeus and Philetus.
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And Preterism (Lee N. Fields probable poison)
Did I say I was a preterist?
But, I guess everybody's a preterist to the dispensationalist who throws everything to the end of the age. When Jesus said "When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies....", it's pretty clear, He meant the Roman siege.
Breathe in, breathe out. "Already, not yet."
My eschatology is "amillenial", distinct from topcat54's postmillenialism. My view does not, for instance, require an early date for John's Apocalypse, which is why I tend to sit that battle out.
A better chart in pdf format.
I find dispensationalism "ungospelish" in it's assumptions and implications, for reasons I spell out briefly at the first link above, and Oswald Allis covers in much greater detail.
Why do you have to be so negative? Why do you mock and belittle your brethren? Where is your humility and patience?
Why can't we all just get along? I think you need to check your motives, my friend.
This generation ala Matthew 24:34.
Not sure about the testing part. Where is that in the Bible?
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This has been true for 2000 years. Christ can return at any moment. It is folly, therefore, to suggest you can time it with your Israel-centric timepiece.
Yah'shua is coming at the end of the sixth millennia (day) for the 1000 years (day) of rest and peace Number in Scripture: Its Supernatural Design and Spiritual Significance
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai
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