11 Prophecies fulfilled this generation.

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[kindred]

FOR THE PROPHECY CAME NOT IN OLD TIME BY THE WILL OF MAN: BUT HOLY MEN OF GOD SPAKE AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST. O FOOLS, AND SLOW OF HEART TO BELIEVE ALL THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN-Lk 24:25. However, believing there is a God and acknowledging the Bible is the Word of God does not save a person. A person needs to admit they are a sinner, repent, and receive Jesus Christ as their only hope of being saved. This is done by faith (or trust).

Let's prove the Bible is true and we are nearing the end of the last generation before Christ returns.

1. The Jewish people would be scattered worldwide; yet Israel would become a nation again after a long time and at a time the Bible calls the "latter days"-ref Isa 66:8; Mic 5:3; Ezek 38:8. Against what appeared to be impossible odds, this prophecy has been fulfilled. It happened as predicted on May 14, 1948 after about 2500 years. That’s 1 out of 1. Note: Israel was destroyed in approximately 721 B.C. and Judah about 135 years later. Since that time, approximately fourteen different peoples have possessed the land of Israel. Yet as the Bible said, the nation of Israel would be reborn. The rebirth of Israel was a key sign, indicating we had entered a time period called the "latter days." It was the beginning of a countdown leading to the Tribulation and culminating with the Battle of Armageddon and the return of Jesus. Along with the fulfillment of this crucial event are over 360 prophecies that would all come together, so we might recognize that the Tribulation is very close at hand. Some of these are listed here. Yet the Bible foretells that most people would not believe these things, despite the overwhelming evidence of the signs from God’s Word being fulfilled exactly as predicted. As people refused to believe the flood was coming in Noah’s time, so people today willingly choose to disregard the signs of the times.

2. Israel shall be brought forth in one day, at once-ref Isa 66:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. That’s 2 out of 2. Note: On Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the U.N. approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. On the morning of May 14, 1948 (the last day of the British mandate), a meeting of the People’s Council took place in Israel to decide on the name of the state and to finalize the declaration. At precisely 4 pm, the proclamation ceremony began at the Tel Aviv museum. The 979 Hebrew words of the Scroll of Independence were read. All stood, and the scroll was adopted. The notorious White Paper, issued by the British in 1930 restricting Jewish immigration, was declared null and void. Members of the People’s Council signed the proclamation. David Ben-Gurion rapped his gavel, declaring, "The State of Israel is established. This meeting is ended." Israel was brought forth as a nation in one day, at once, exactly as predicted. At midnight, the British soldiers and high commissioner would leave. President Truman was swift in announcing U.S. recognition of Israel. The following morning, on May 15, Israel was under attack by the Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian, and Iraqi forces.

3. Israel would be brought forth (or reborn) "out of the nations"-Ezek 38:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. That’s 3 out of 3. Note: As previously stated, on Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the "United Nations" approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. This prophecy was perfectly fulfilled. Consider, for centuries the land of Israel had been occupied by many nations. Israel was "brought forth out of the nations"—the children of Israel from many nations have been returning to their ancient homeland.

4. Israel must regain the city of Jerusalem-Joel 2:32; Isa 28:14; Ezek 22:19. This happened just as predicted in 1967. That’s 4 out of 4. Note: The Bible gives us two methods so we would know the time we are in. One is by Israel’s rebirth. The other, by a precise line of events that would all come together at one time. Israel was reborn on May 14th, 1948. The Bible indicates that from Israel’s rebirth a generation would not pass till all be fulfilled. We are not setting any date; however, it seems clear from Israel’s rebirth and the signs of the times— that we are living in the generation in which the Rapture and Tribulation will come and catch most people by surprise. Are you ready?

5. The Christian church at the time of the end would be lukewarm, neither cold nor hot for Jesus. Prophecy fulfilled. That’s 5 out of 5. Note: God will spew them out. Many ministers and people that call themselves a Christian will not be going to heaven. The Bible tells us—you have acquired wealth, but your true condition is wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked and you don’t know it-Rev 3:14-22. This is today’s church. Most preachers use little Scripture, but lots of worldly stories. Many sing a great deal, but put little emphasis on repentance, obeying, serving, and fearing God, on the fruits of the Spirit, Bible prophecy, water baptism by immersion, and studying your Bible faithfully every day. Many are only entertainment centers that teach what their members want to hear. Many (so-called Christians) are so lukewarm or dead, they don’t even bring their Bibles with them to the house of God. Some famous ministers and Bible schools think this is the best church age ever, yet the Bible clearly shows it is the worst and most deceived.

6. The Bible gives us over 50 descriptions about the people at the time of the end. These fit the people of today perfectly, but did not fit the people of fifty years ago. Here are some:

A. Some would depart from the faith and go into devil worship-1 Tim 4:1. This is perfect.

B. People would mock about the last days and not believe-2 Pe 3:3; Jude 18.

C. People would become lovers of themselves-2 Tim 3:1,2. Remember the TV commercials—"I do it for me"?

D. People would be disobeying their parents-2 Tim 3:1,2.

E. People would be grateful for nothing-2 Tim 3:1,2.

F. Homosexuality would increase-Lk 17:28,30; ref Gen 19:5; Ro 1:24,26,27.

G. People would be without self-control in sex-2 Tim 3:1,2,6; Rev 9:21, Lk 17:28,30; Jude 7. Is this not the great sex generation?

H. People would love pleasures more than God-2 Tim 3:1,2,4. This is true. Shall we go on a picnic, watch football, or sleep. Church?—we can go another time. Our American motto "In God we trust" has become a joke. Remember, these were all predicted centuries ago as part of the signs that we are at the time of the end.

I. People would be taking drugs-Rev 9:21. The Greek word for sorceries, in Rev 9:21, means pharmaceuticals or drugs. God’s Word is 100% right on every one. That’s 6 out of 6. How could you have any doubts at this point? Note: Fifty years ago, many people seldom locked their doors at night. There was little or no profanity on television, radio, or in the movies. One of the biggest problems in public school was gum chewing. Those days are long gone.

7. There would be weapons that could destroy the world-Mk 13:20; Rev 6:8; Rev 9:18; Zech 14:8,12. Incredibly, this prophecy was written in the days of spears and arrows, yet today it is true. That’s 7 out of 7. Note: It is estimated that the combined nuclear arsenals of the USA and Russia (as of the year 2004) could kill every living thing on earth 6 times over.

8. The Gospel must be published in all the world-Mk 13:10. This seemingly impossible prophecy was written when there was no printing press, but today it is true. That's 8 out of 8. Note: In this last generation, to our knowledge, the Gospel is being published (or is about to be published) in the primary language of every nation of the world or "among all nations." In addition, the Gospel is available by short-wave radio nearly everywhere in the world.

9. In the "latter days" when Israel was once again a nation, there would be a great military power to the extreme north of Israel in the land of Magog (which is modern-day Russia)-Ezek 38:2-4,8,15,16. Incredible. That’s 9 out of 9. Note: How could the Bible have foretold the location of this nation, facts about its military, and even the time period it would come to pass? As was already said in Lk 24:25-O FOOLS, AND SLOW OF HEART TO BELIEVE ALL THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN.

10. There would be a nation to the far east of Israel, to the end of the earth. This nation would have an army of 200 million. This is astounding. How could the Bible have told the location of a nation and given such a huge figure regarding the size of its army nearly 2000 years ago? China has boasted that they could field an army of this exact figure. That’s 10 out of 10.

11. There would be an economic alliance of the nations of the Old Roman Empire. It would have a military capability. This is an exact description of the European Economic Community today (the EEC), which has already adopted the one-currency system for many of their member nations. It is written, IN THE DAYS OF THESE KINGS (these nations, which is now) SHALL THE GOD OF HEAVEN SET UP A KINGDOM-Dan 2:44. That’s 11 out of 11. We have just reached the point that seemed impossible—11 perfect predictions made thousands of years ago—with God nothing is impossible. Certainly, at this point, even the biggest skeptic should see the Bible is true, there is a God, and we are nearing the time of the end.

About 22 prophecies in 11 sets have been given, all perfect and all written centuries ago. The chance that any person could do this 2000 years into the future is not possible. The Bible is the Word of God, and we have just proved it. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Repent and get baptized by full immersion. Read and obey the Gospel. God loves you. He is not willing that any should perish, yet many do. The Rapture is close. Most people are not ready and will not be taken. However, "YOU" cannot say you did not know. Know and understand, Mt 16:26-WHAT IS A MAN PROFITED, IF HE SHALL GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD, AND LOSE HIS OWN SOUL? OR WHAT SHALL A MAN GIVE IN

[roamer_1]

I don't know if it points to 12/21/12, but is believed to fit the timeline.

I believe 2012 is too soon. The next major prophetic milestone is the Battle of Magog, different, I believe, from the Battle of Armageddon.

The unmistakable supernatural intervention which will lead to Israel's success will, according to the prophecy, cause national Israel to turn back to the Father, and speaks of the time it will take to purify the land.

That they are ritualistically purifying the land indicates that this is also the time of the establishment of Yahweh's Temple (Ezekiel), necessarily standing in order for the sacrifice to cease, and more importantly, for Christ to return via the Eastern Gate.

JMO

[mountn man]

The Bible calls the tribulation the time of judgement. Christians ARE NOT under judgement.

We might be disciplined for our sins, but never under judgement.

Judgement denotes wrath. Christians never fall under Gods wrath.

At the Second Coming when Christ steps on the Mount Of Olives, he is followed by all the saints.

Where do they come from?

The Bible tells us the dead in Christ shall rise first, followed by the living, in a twinkling of an eye, at the last trump.

In Revelation 19 it talks about the great marriage supper of the Lamb. Then its followed by the AC making war against Christ. Christians are with Christ for the marriage supper and come down to earth with Christ for AC's defeat.

[mountn man]

There are a few different times ,and time lengths, the Bible talks of a generation.

Psalms tells us that a man shall live 3 score and 10, and if by strength 4 score...

So 70 years as the rule of thumb.

1948 + 70 + or - = 2018ish, give or take.

Thats for the second coming. The tribulation would start 7 years before that.

Also a generation could mean the last person still living when Christ returns, from when Israel was reborn. So I guess we could stretch it out maybe another 30 years.

[paulycy]

C. People would become lovers of themselves-2 Tim 3:1,2.

"We are the ones we've been waiting for..."

[mountn man]

I believe Gog/Magog to be the next major prophesy also.

But I see that 2012, and that war as possible coinciding. Russia and Iran have a strong alliance. Iran has the missles and possibly the nuke material. Ahmadinnerjacket wants to usher in the Mahdi and to wipe Israel from the face of the earth. According to Islam "prophecy" the Mahdi will be ushered in under a great war.

There are some similarities between the Bibles AC and Islams Mahdi.

In Gog/Magog the armies and possibly the countries of Gog-Russia and most Islamic nations-will be destroyed, BY GOD.

We know that the beginning of the trib is the peace deal between AC and Israel. My thought is the peace deal comes after Gog/Magog.

I also think that Israel needs to find vast oil reserves, and become a wealthy nation. My original comment about 2012 was just a thought that I have had, in using other than biblical "prophesy".

Another thought I've had is that Israel became a nation in 1948. Psalms 90 tells us that a man shall live (a generation) 3 score and 10, or even 4 score. So 70-80 years.

1948+70 years = 2018.

That would be if your holding to a generation being 70 years, and timelining it out. Now subtract 7 years for the tribulation, because if your a person who holds to the idea of a rapture, the rapture and second coming are different events.

Whether the trib starts as soon as April or June of this year or not until 2018, doesn't really matter. Time is running out for the harvest. The storm clouds are gathering.

World wide hatred for Israel is rising. The US is weakening, thereby taking our shadow of protection off of Israel. Allowing God to show HIS strength and protection of Israel.

Never before has the world been able to produce a 1 world money or banking system. We now have that ability. Kind of a coincidence that economic systems all over the world are collapsing, just so they can be "saved" by a centralized banking system.

Its interesting that the current financial plans that are to help us, will do nothing but drag us down further weakening us financially and politically.

With the world in financial, political and war chaos, a perfect time for a "savior" to appear.

The US had been doing pretty good, but still people CHOSE to follow Obama as if he were the Messiah, a savior fro mall our ills.

Imagine how people will be when the real player comes on the scene. People here have chosen to believe the Obama lie. I can only imagine people choosing to believe the AC lie.

"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

[Just mythoughts]

1THESS 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. (Those believers who have tied in this grace age of Jew and Gentile church and whose bodies are in the grave will be raised from their graves along with those of us who are alive in the moment the Lord raptures His Church, the born again believers He has save for some 2000 years when He overcame death, hell and the grave and ascended into the heavenlies and is now seated at the right hand of God the Father.

First off it is NOT born again but born from above. First requirement for any to 'see' the kingdom of God. Christ was a partaker of blood and flesh and He came through this flesh age just as the rest of us. Those who refused to be born of woman will NOT see the kingdom of God. This flesh clay pot the potter formed was for the purpose for the soul/spirit intellect to be born and pass through this flesh age. To sleep with the fathers does not mean this flesh clay pot is what is going to be in use when Christ returns.

Christ has not returned so long as we alllllll are still in flesh clay pots. When the flesh clay pot dies the soul/spirit, good bad and in between returns to the Father that sent it.

The remainder of 1st Thessolians 4 must be studied in context with all Scriptures, the knowledge of this translation was given to Paul the Apostle to the Gentiles only when God began the Church of Jesus Christ. It is hard for those of us of the fallen race of Adam and under the curse of the creation(GE3) to understand the word of God and His miracle power as we are corrupted from our birth.

Do you even know what the sin was that cause the Adam to fall? It was a specific sin, and what was demonstrated was that ONLY Christ could pass through this flesh age without ever committing a sin. He was the only perfect pure sacrifice to ever be offered for the sole purpose of giving grace with is unmerited favor to the rest of us that pass through this flesh age.

[mountn man]

Israel may be hit with a nuke or 2, but will not be wiped off the earth as Ahmadinnerjacket vows.

Ezekiel 38-39

Sounds like your actually mocking Bible prophecy, and gloating over the destruction of Israel.

Not a very wise position on either.

1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 "Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal; prophesy against him 3 and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. 5 Persia, Cush and Put will be with them, all with shields and helmets, 6 also Gomer with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you. 7 " 'Get ready; be prepared, you and all the hordes gathered about you, and take command of them. 8 After many days you will be called to arms. In future years you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of Israel, which had long been desolate. They had been brought out from the nations, and now all of them live in safety. 9 You and all your troops and the many nations with you will go up, advancing like a storm; you will be like a cloud covering the land.

10 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11 You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12 I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land." 13 Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villages will say to you, "Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?" '

14 "Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, O Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I show myself holy through you before their eyes.

17 " 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Are you not the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel? At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign LORD. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign LORD. Every man's sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the LORD.'

1 "Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 2 I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4 On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals. 5 You will fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign LORD. 6 I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the LORD.

7 " 'I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the LORD am the Holy One in Israel. 8 It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign LORD. This is the day I have spoken of.

9 " 'Then those who live in the towns of Israel will go out and use the weapons for fuel and burn them up—the small and large shields, the bows and arrows, the war clubs and spears. For seven years they will use them for fuel. 10 They will not need to gather wood from the fields or cut it from the forests, because they will use the weapons for fuel. And they will plunder those who plundered them and loot those who looted them, declares the Sovereign LORD.

11 " 'On that day I will give Gog a burial place in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east toward the Sea. It will block the way of travelers, because Gog and all his hordes will be buried there. So it will be called the Valley of Hamon Gog.

12 " 'For seven months the house of Israel will be burying them in order to cleanse the land. 13 All the people of the land will bury them, and the day I am glorified will be a memorable day for them, declares the Sovereign LORD.

14 " 'Men will be regularly employed to cleanse the land. Some will go throughout the land and, in addition to them, others will bury those that remain on the ground. At the end of the seven months they will begin their search. 15 As they go through the land and one of them sees a human bone, he will set up a marker beside it until the gravediggers have buried it in the Valley of Hamon Gog. 16 (Also a town called Hamonah will be there.) And so they will cleanse the land.'

17 "Son of man, this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Call out to every kind of bird and all the wild animals: 'Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood. 18 You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the princes of the earth as if they were rams and lambs, goats and bulls—all of them fattened animals from Bashan. 19 At the sacrifice I am preparing for you, you will eat fat till you are glutted and drink blood till you are drunk. 20 At my table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, mighty men and soldiers of every kind,' declares the Sovereign LORD.

21 "I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay upon them. 22 From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the LORD their God. 23 And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. 24 I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offenses, and I hid my face from them.

25 "Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will now bring Jacob back from captivity and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. 26 They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. 27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the LORD their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign LORD."

[spacejunkie01]

“Sleep” and “die” are the same....no one is in heaven yet, contrary to popular belief. When people die they are ‘asleep in the grave’ until the 2nd coming of Christ.

[spacejunkie01]

God protects His people:

Ezekiel 9:3-6 (New International Version)

3 Now the glory of the God of Israel went up from above the cherubim, where it had been, and moved to the threshold of the temple. Then the LORD called to the man clothed in linen who had the writing kit at his side 4 and said to him, “Go throughout the city of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of those who grieve and lament over all the detestable things that are done in it.”

5 As I listened, he said to the others, “Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. 6 Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children, but do not touch anyone who has the mark. Begin at my sanctuary.” So they began with the elders who were in front of the temple.

[Just mythoughts]

“Sleep” and “die” are the same....no one is in heaven yet, contrary to popular belief. When people die they are ‘asleep in the grave’ until the 2nd coming of Christ.

NO when the flesh dies it returns to dust from which it came to be, but the soul/spirit returns to the Maker that sent it.... Alll who pass through this flesh age have returned to the Maker. The Adam was not alive-living until the breath of life which means soul was breathed into his nostrils.

[spacejunkie01]

We were attending a church in Longwood Florida that had a pastor that openly supported obama and was his ‘voice’ on Fox and Friends after Saddleback.

we were sickened. this guy is pathetic; sending a message to all those young people that attend his church that obama is acceptable as a president because Joel Hunter supports him.

[Doctor Don]

Kindred, you are a preterist. There are two major problems with preterism. First, in order to support the notion of an A.D. 70 fulfillment of the large number of details surrounding the tribulation, preterists must use an unwarranted allegorical interpretative approach. Matthew 24:30 and Revelation 19:11-21 must somehow be understood to represent Christ coming mysteriously through the Roman army which conquered Jerusalem in A.D 70.

A second major error of preterism is the confusion of judgment and salvation in relation to the nation of Israel. Preterism sees only judgment toward Israel in passages that speak of the tribulation, such as the Olivet discourse (Matthew 24; Mark 13; Luke 17:20-37) and Revelation 4-19.

[roamer_1]

Thank you for your reply.

But I see that 2012, and that war as possible coinciding.

I do not find a need to correlate Jehovah's Prophets with pagan prophecy, and for that reason, I pay pagan prophecy little mind when applied to Jehovah's Word.

Pagan prophecy is useful, but only in predicting the path of the lie, which will fool most of the world. Lies always have a kernel of truth to lend them credence, but it is always and invariably skewed by the lie itself. Discerning truth from lies is nearly always a futile thing, and certainly so when dealing with something as specific as a date.

As an aside, This is why we must reject anything which attempts to add to the Holy Word, especially any which attempt to discredit the Old Covenant and the New Covenant in preference of something else- The Prophecy is interwoven throughout the Bible, and it is Jehovah's proof to us that He is indeed God Almighty. That He ALONE knows the beginning from the ending and He told us all these things would happen, even as they are.

There are some similarities between the Bibles AC and Islams Mahdi.

Not only are there similarities, Islamic prophecy is the direct antithesis of the Judeo-Christian Prophets. While time-lines coincide, at every turn, the Islamic prophecies proclaim the exact opposite of the Hebrew and Christian Prophecy. Read the Koran and assoc. Hadiths. It will curl your hair.

In Gog/Magog the armies and possibly the countries of Gog-Russia and most Islamic nations-will be destroyed, BY GOD.

This is true, but it depends somewhat upon interpretation. If the Battle of Magog is the same thing as the Battle against Edom, which one would suppose it is as Edom's progeny are inarguably interspersed with Ishmael's, those same Islamic countries which are decimated in the War of Magog, then one must also include the Edom prophecies in this tale.

And the linkage is there to a degree. In both cases, unlike Armageddon, the major battle takes place south of Jerusalem, in the valley of Jehoshaphat (AFAIR), which is the Jordan river valley running toward the Dead Sea.

There is much to say about Christ coming up from the south, His robes stained crimson... It says He takes Judah as His bow (odd, as Ephraim is always the Bow of Jehovah), and fills him with the arrows of Ephraim... and it says that the Spirit of the Lord would run before them in battle.

It speaks of captives of Judah and Ephraim, kept in a well with no water (the only other ref, Joseph betrayed by his brothers) miraculously released, and as the war suddenly turns, of Ephraim's people leaping for joy in the west, because they know it was the Lord.

So a profound and inexplicable victory, no doubt. Those who believe will see the Hand of the Lord, and KNOW that He saved the day. To those who don't believe, it will look like an incredible military victory against a seemingly overwhelming force.

What is a more salient and important point to me, is who and where is Ephraim? The House of Israel (as differed from the House of Judah) figures prominently in end times Prophecy, and that knowledge seems to be a critical piece that is missing. Knowing that can change the whole perspective.

I also think that Israel needs to find vast oil reserves, and become a wealthy nation.

If the War we are talking about leaves Israel with it's promised lands, it will indeed own oil as the eastern Iraqi fields would be part of that land.

1948+70 years = 2018.

Yes, I suppose, though it can be argued that the forming of Israel was not complete until Jerusalem was captured. Others await the Temple to officially begin the clock, feeling that the prophecy is not complete until Israel establishes God's Holy Mountain, as expected...

There is also some ambiguity as to a "generation". Forty years is also a Biblically referenced generation, as is sixty years. What is important is that the major sign has been accomplished. We may not understand it fully without the clarity of the next milepost. The measurements will work out, to be sure. We may not have enough information to calculate clearly at this time. That is the danger of assuming context in prophecy.

The US had been doing pretty good, but still people CHOSE to follow Obama as if he were the Messiah, a savior fro mall our ills.

I disagree completely. This election was about Republicans being unpalatable to Conservatives, not about any other thing. That both political parties are bent upon the destruction of our sovereignty, and have been for years, ties in neatly with your general theory though.

Imagine how people will be when the real player comes on the scene. People here have chosen to believe the Obama lie. I can only imagine people choosing to believe the AC lie.

Again, I don't see 0bama as being much at all, nor do I see people believing in him at all. There is alot of MSM pimping designed to make us believe it is so, but no one is in favor of what he is actually doing.

The AC will look a whole lot more "christian", IMHO, with sound economic policies, real work ethics, real prowess. Remember that he sits in Jehovah's House, claiming to be god.

[XenaLee]

I’m sure. I’m sure that, now that we have a closet-Muslim, fake-Christian, radical, Marxist communist in charge of the USA, we will definitely NOT be on the side of Isreal when the time comes.....just AS biblical prophecy foretells. That doesn’t mean that at least half of Americans and most Christian Americans aren’t pulling for Isreal in their hearts, though.

[topcat54]

1. ... It happened as predicted on May 14, 1948 after about 2500 years.

There is no evidence to support the idea that secular Israel circa 1948 is the fulfillment of any Bible prophecy.

2. Israel shall be brought forth in one day, at once-ref Isa 66:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. That’s 2 out of 2.

Sorry, Israel was not literally “brought forth in a day”. The political machinations that resulted in modern, secular Israel of 1948 started decades before, at least starting with the time of the Balfour Declaration in 1917.

3. Israel would be brought forth (or reborn) "out of the nations"-Ezek 38:8. ... This prophecy was perfectly fulfilled.

There was no fulfilled prophecy. This is pure speculation.

5. The Christian church at the time of the end would be lukewarm, neither cold nor hot for Jesus. Prophecy fulfilled. That’s 5 out of 5.

There is no such prophecy in the Bible.

6. The Bible gives us over 50 descriptions about the people at the time of the end.

And these have been true in one way or another for 2000 years.

7. There would be weapons that could destroy the world-Mk 13:20; Rev 6:8; Rev 9:18; Zech 14:8,12.

There are no prophecies about weapons that could destroy the entire world in the Bible. Just look at the verses carefully. None of the say anything about humanly created weapons.

And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect's sake, whom He chose, He shortened the days.

So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

By these three plagues a third of mankind was killed--by the fire and the smoke and the brimstone which came out of their mouths.

And in that day it shall be That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, Half of them toward the eastern sea And half of them toward the western sea; In both summer and winter it shall occur. ... And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets, And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

8. The Gospel must be published in all the world-Mk 13:10.

Paul confirmed this reality in the first century. Cf. Col. 1:6.

9. In the "latter days" when Israel was once again a nation, there would be a great military power to the extreme north of Israel in the land of Magog (which is modern-day Russia)-Ezek 38:2-4,8,15,16.

But there is no proof that modern, secular Israel is related at all to Biblical Israel, and the idea that Russia is Magog has no support at all from the Bible.

10. There would be a nation to the far east of Israel, to the end of the earth. This nation would have an army of 200 million.

200 million on horseback (you forgot that part), literally speaking (Rev. 9:16). Did you know there are only about 70 million horses on the entire planet? It's gonna be a few more decades, even centuries, before this can ever be “literally fulfilled” (which, of course, it won't because it is not an image to be taken “literally”).

11. There would be an economic alliance of the nations of the Old Roman Empire. It would have a military capability. This is an exact description of the European Economic Community today (the EEC), which has already adopted the one-currency system for many of their member nations.

Oh, you mean the so-called ten nation confederacy of 70s-era futurism? Just FYI, the EEC no longer exists. It's been replaced by the EU, which has how many nations these days, 27 I believe.

How old is this list?

These fraudulent lists are so easy to poke holes in. It's sad to see folks so easily duped by bad prophecy gurus.

[festus]

I have the utmost respect for Bible prophecy.

The endless interpretations and speculations of man, especially newly invented doctrines that have no history in the Church, those I do not take seriously for a minute.

And no I am not gloating over Israel. I pray there will continue to be peace in that region. However I don’t see how with Barry at the helm.

[mountn man]

The endless interpretations and speculations of man, especially newly invented doctrines that have no history in the Church, those I do not take seriously for a minute.

Newly invented????

[Uri’el-2012]

How old is this list?

These fraudulent lists are so easy to poke holes in. It's sad to see folks so easily duped by bad prophecy gurus.

Mat 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

Mat 24:43 "But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into.

Mat 24:44 "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think {He will.}

Mat 24:45 "Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time?

Mat 24:46 "Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes.

Mat 24:47 "Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions.

Mat 24:48 "But if that evil slave says in his heart, 'My master is not coming for a long time,'

Mat 24:49 and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards;

Mat 24:50 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect {him} and at an hour which he does not know,

Mat 24:51 and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach Adonai

[topcat54]

Mat 24:42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming.

Amen. Too bad folks keep making up these wacky lists purporting to know the end is near.

[Lee N. Field]

And in that day it shall be That living waters shall flow from Jerusalem, Half of them toward the eastern sea And half of them toward the western sea; In both summer and winter it shall occur. ...

A perfect segue to John's depiction of New Jerusalem, in the new heavens and new earth:

Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

"Oh, that's a different river, different trees, different fruit for the healing of the nations. See, there's two sets...." Or something.

Did you know there are only about 70 million horses on the entire planet? It's gonna be a few more decades, even centuries, before this can ever be “literally fulfilled”

I dunno, 200,000,000 of these you could probably come up with in a decade:

China, buying up all the metals it can get. Coincidence? I think not.