Posted on 02/14/2009 10:55:11 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
Somebody around here has never checked their concordance nor has performed a word study on the various ways on how yom is translated in the Bible....
See my post 99 if you need a little help.
I presume you made a typo when you said that a yom is from sunset to sunrise. If it wasn't a typo, then why do the Young-Earthers insist, without any grammatical basis, that yom has to mean a literal, 24-hour day -- except where it doesn't?
It seems that the male sexual member has a corkscrew twist to it. So too does the female duct, except it's the OPPOSITE THREAD.
They are able to breed if and only if the female gets really, really relaxed.
Now, think about it ~ corkscrew structure, opposite threads, and still one species.
It's beginning to look like we know less and less about more and more and still no resolution of what breeding constraints help establish a separate species!
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that’s even remotely true!” — Homer Simpson
No, at the quantum level all elementary particles are made up of fermions or bosons. Beyond that, you have to go to string theory and brane theory.
Very heady stuff and way beyond the scope of this thread.
It's not so much about the what or the how, but the Who behind the universe.
Citations?
Holding my breath placemarker
You're an A1 idiot for believing that nonsense. Where is this poll you are talking about?
Romans 5:14
Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
(No death before Adam and Eve's sin.)
Matthew 19:4-5
And he (Jesus) answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
(A quote from Genesis 1 through 11, oh the horror!!)
(Jesus probably didn't mean the beginning really meant the beginning though. He probably didn't mean to say that God made Adam and Eve, but they evolved.)
Ezekiel 14:20
Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.
(I'm sure the Holy Spirit speaking through Ezekiel didn't really think Noah and Job were real people, just a nice allegory.)
Luke 17:26-28 (Jesus speaking) (Oh that pesky Jesus again)
And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
(I'm sure he doesn't mean an actual global flood though.)
The earth is somewhere between 6,000 to 10,000 years old. There was a global catastrophic flood about 4400 years ago. Sorry folks, but that's what Jesus believed and I'm going with him, not you. You have to go with the eyewitness.
Those numbers don't come from an Atheist group or the MSM, though I do think those numbers are exaggerated, but that's what they claim they got.
Where is this poll you are talking about?
ST. LOUIS (BP)--In the course of researching family life in America, the Southern Baptist Council on Family Life uncovered such gut-wrenching statistics that they were driven to their knees.
Among the facts they found:
-- 88 percent of the children raised in evangelical homes leave church at the age of 18, never to return.
-- The divorce ratio among members of evangelical churches is virtually the same as among non-church members.
-- In the United States, 1 million children see their parents divorce.
-- Approximately two-thirds of the members of Southern Baptist churches attend church only sporadically.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Interesting concept...But wouldn't all Cheetahs have come from one original source, one Cheetah???
Or could it have been many butterflies that turned into many Cheetahs allowing for a variation in DNA???
But then maybe one butterfly turned into a Cheetah and one red-toed frog turned into a Cheetah and one shrew turned into a Cheetah...And this would account for a diversity of DNA...
Maybe some Cheetahs turned into blue-birds...Maybe ought to check some blue-birds for some corresponding Cheetah DNA...
Might want to check some Walleyes as well...Some of the Cheetahs could have turned into fish...
Sorry. Low blow.
When you deny what God has shown in his creation, and deny a perfectly legitimate interpretation of Genesis that agrees 100% with God's general revelation, then you are saying that God has lied to us through his creation. Yet, as usual, you Young-Earthers are the ones who claim that those of who recognize those facts aren't real Christians
What you are saying is that the scripture has to line up with science...Bible beleivers say that science has to line up with scripture...
then you are saying that God has lied to us through his creation.
No...I would say that the scripture is 100% accurate and your theory of science and your interpretation of the scriptures are faulty...
I dug a fossil out of a gorge on the Yellowstone River in Montana and sent it to the University of Michigan...They dated it and sent it back...They said it was a salt water species and was over 500 million years old...
What was fascintating to me was that there were thousands of these fossils arranged at the base of this little gorge covered by about 100 feet of dirt and rock which had been washed out and allowed them to be visible...
They were all in a layer about 2 feet thick...Like there was a mass death of these things all at one time...I count this as evidence of Noah's Flood...
I seriously doubt the dating methods of the scientific community...I doubt they can tell the difference in something that is a million years old and a billion...
A person that actually believes what the scriptures say, in my view, can see an old earth as well as a young earth...Evolution however is out of the question...
That makes more sense than a piece of dust turning into a mosquito and then the mosquito turning into a German Sheperd...
But then where did the dust come from???
“”Now in 2007 they find an arctic ocean’s worthy of water in the mantle, and evidence of a global catastrophic flood 4400 years ago is mounting up.”
Citations?”
http://record.wustl.edu/news/page/normal/8749.html
https://ssl.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/nbbwssl.cgi?Gw=arctic+ocean+of+water+found+in+the+mantle
I’ve heard about that. They call it “lock and key” sexual selection and it does complicate species identification.
Destroyed who?
And ultimately no one knows for sure, so it’s all a matter of opinion
Cool. I didn't see any links pointing to new discoveries about a worldwide flood 4,400 years ago.
No, what I am saying is that God's general revelation through his creation should line up with God's special revelation through the scriptures.
And you know what? They do line up! There are no conflicts between real science and a good interpretation of the Bible. I subscribed to several Biblical archeaology magazine for years and it was amazing to me how archeologists are making discoveries that agree exactly with the Bible.
Are you aware that the idea of the Big Bang was originally rejected by scientists because it so closely describes what the Bible says?
I resent you saying that I'm not a Bible believer. I have never called your faith into question. I am a very conservative, 100% Bible-believing Christian.
A person that actually believes what the scriptures say, in my view, can see an old earth as well as a young earth...Evolution however is out of the question...
That's good that you are open to reasonable interpretations of the Bible. As for evolution, it is real and observable. Google the mutation of the bird flu virus. That is evolution.I do not agree with the entirety of the theory as it is taught today because some of the scientific claims seem to be a real stretch. However, I see no reason why God could not have used evolution to expand his creation. It does not detract from the miracle of his creation.
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