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1 posted on 02/03/2009 11:21:50 AM PST by TaraP
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God help the UK


2 posted on 02/03/2009 11:22:32 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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Oh yes..It is so offensive to have someone pray for your recovery....What a sick world....

Unbelievable!


3 posted on 02/03/2009 11:23:42 AM PST by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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She said that she wasn't offended but was concerned that someone else might be.
Isn't this always how it starts?
4 posted on 02/03/2009 11:24:33 AM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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She wasn't offended, but she was afraid someone else might be.

How thoughtful.

5 posted on 02/03/2009 11:24:41 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You give peace a chance. I'll stay back here and cover you, just in case it don't work out.)
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I wonder if she'd be offended if we all pray she gets sick and dies a long, slow painful death.
6 posted on 02/03/2009 11:26:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You give peace a chance. I'll stay back here and cover you, just in case it don't work out.)
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This sort of thing really doesn’t help the atheist cause. It only serves to convince the believers of the efficacy of prayer, since to their mind it wouldn’t be perceived as a threat if it wasn’t efficacious.

The best thing to do would be to tell the troublesome nurse that she may mutter what she pleases to her imaginary god, provided she doesn’t bother you with it.


9 posted on 02/03/2009 11:30:34 AM PST by tvdog12345
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said she had asked the patient if she would like a prayer said for her after she had put dressings on the woman's legs.

I am a bit confused as to exactly what this nurse was asking. Was she asking the patient if she could say a prayer with her or for her latter? Big difference.

I have never asked someone if I could pray for them, I just tell them that I will say a prayer for them. But I do ask if they would like me to pray with them, as some are uncomfortable with the idea.

If she was asking to pray with the patient, that would be wrong as she is praying on company time and most companies would not permit that. But if she was asking to pray for her, I cannot see the problem.

12 posted on 02/03/2009 12:12:48 PM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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I am always a bit surprised when I read that there are still Christians left in Britain.

They mostly turned their backs on God long ago.

Britain is lost.


15 posted on 02/03/2009 1:20:53 PM PST by alarm rider ("We laugh at honor, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst" C.S. Lewis)
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Reminds me of the time that Rod parsley’s church got sued for something “offensive” that was said in their ministry outside the abortion clinics...

In court, the judge asked “What was said to you ?”

The lawsuit person said, “She told me, “Jesus loves you”

The judge said, “I wish someone would tell me that” and dismissed the case..


16 posted on 02/03/2009 1:22:08 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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Just today, I talked with a friend whose SIL was suspended from her job for praying for a woman who REQUESTED prayer.

She's waiting to find out whether or not she will be able to return to work.

18 posted on 02/03/2009 2:49:02 PM PST by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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I’ve been an RN for 25 years; a visiting nurse for 15 of those years. There is nothing in my nurse practice act nor in my employee regulations that prohibits me from praying with or for a patient. In fact, a big part of nursing education (at least back in the LAST century, lol) was about paying attention to not only a patient’s physical health, but their spiritual and emotional health as well. (Do an internet search on nursing and spiritual health, and you’ll find addressing this aspect of a patient’s health is an integral part of both nursing theory and practice.)

While openly praying with a patient rarely happened when I worked in the hospital setting, it has occurred many, many times in my work as a visiting nurse. You get to know patients (especially long-term ones) in a much deeper way when you go to their homes (sometimes daily) and meet their families, friends, pets, etc. Many of these people are extremely isolated, with no connection to a church or pastor/priest. Sometimes the visiting nurse is the only person they see on a regular basis.

Of course, the nurse must take into consideration both the patient’s faith and her own when it comes to shared prayer. Obviously, if I had a patient hostile to Christian beliefs or of another religious faith, I wouldn’t suggest openly praying for them. But in many, many cases, it is both appropriate and beneficial.


21 posted on 02/03/2009 6:37:26 PM PST by Flo Nightengale
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I’ve been an RN for 25 years; a visiting nurse for 15 of those years. There is nothing in my nurse practice act nor in my employee regulations that prohibits me from praying with or for a patient. In fact, a big part of nursing education (at least back in the LAST century, lol) was about paying attention to not only a patient’s physical health, but their spiritual and emotional health as well. (Do an internet search on nursing and spiritual health, and you’ll find addressing this aspect of a patient’s health is an integral part of both nursing theory and practice.)

While openly praying with a patient rarely happened when I worked in the hospital setting, it has occurred many, many times in my work as a visiting nurse. You get to know patients (especially long-term ones) in a much deeper way when you go to their homes (sometimes daily) and meet their families, friends, pets, etc. Many of these people are extremely isolated, with no connection to a church or pastor/priest. Sometimes the visiting nurse is the only person they see on a regular basis.

Of course, the nurse must take into consideration both the patient’s faith and her own when it comes to shared prayer. Obviously, if I had a patient hostile to Christian beliefs or of another religious faith, I wouldn’t suggest openly praying for them. But in many, many cases, it is both appropriate and beneficial.


22 posted on 02/03/2009 6:47:51 PM PST by Flo Nightengale
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I’ve been an RN for 25 years; a visiting nurse for 15 of those years. There is nothing in my nurse practice act nor in my employee regulations that prohibits me from praying with or for a patient. In fact, a big part of nursing education (at least back in the LAST century, lol) was about paying attention to not only a patient’s physical health, but their spiritual and emotional health as well. (Do an internet search on nursing and spiritual health, and you’ll find addressing this aspect of a patient’s health is an integral part of both nursing theory and practice.)

While openly praying with a patient rarely happened when I worked in the hospital setting, it has occurred many, many times in my work as a visiting nurse. You get to know patients (especially long-term ones) in a much deeper way when you go to their homes (sometimes daily) and meet their families, friends, pets, etc. Many of these people are extremely isolated, with no connection to a church or pastor/priest. Sometimes the visiting nurse is the only person they see on a regular basis.

Of course, the nurse must take into consideration both the patient’s faith and her own when it comes to shared prayer. Obviously, if I had a patient hostile to Christian beliefs or of another religious faith, I wouldn’t suggest openly praying for them. But in many, many cases, it is both appropriate and beneficial.


23 posted on 02/03/2009 6:52:39 PM PST by Flo Nightengale
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This article is hard to understand. Was the patient an immigrant?

And what does the BBC author mean by this quote?

Mrs Petrie, who qualified as a nurse in 1985, said she became a Christian following the death of her mother.

Isn't England a Christian country? And isn't it likely this nurse was born into the Church of England? And after seeing the vidoe, isn't it clear that Nurse Petrie is not an arab? Don't they mean to write that Mrs. Petrie converted from the Church of England to became a Baptist after the death of her mother? I have no problem with people converting from one Protestant Christian denomination to another, but let's not suggest that the Church of England (or Catholism for that matter) isn't "Christian" for indeed they are.

I find it annoying when people use the word "Christian" to mean Evangelical. Christian simply means you believe in Christ, which this nurse is and, most likely always was and which her patient also is.

25 posted on 02/03/2009 8:55:10 PM PST by grasshopper2
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“Mrs Petrie said: “The woman mentioned it to the sister who did her dressing the following day. She said that she wasn’t offended but was concerned that someone else might be.”

So this nurse is suspended, not because someone was offended (which would have been bad enough) but because someone MIGHT have been offended????????


27 posted on 02/04/2009 6:54:46 AM PST by Vanders9
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