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The War of Gog and Magog
RaptureReady.com ^ | Not Given | Joseph Chambers

Posted on 01/11/2009 11:49:33 AM PST by GiovannaNicoletta

As the greatest supernatural intervention of human history -- a defense right out of heaven above -- Israel's God is going to reveal Himself. When this Divine display is finished, the Muslim religion will be stripped of all its glory. It will no doubt cause great anger among the hard core Muslims that escape death but a turning to Jesus Christ of those honest individuals that see the glory of our Eternal God. The Muslim religion is a farce when it is seen for what it really represents. Already millions of former Muslims have turned to Christ and the harvest has barely begun. One Saudi sheikh says in disgust that six million Muslims are converting to Christ yearly.

This coming war will serve as the eternal design of Bible prophecy. Men may well look at such a catastrophic devastation as cruel and beyond the acts of a Holy God, but this expression of wrath has been building for many centuries. It will include judgments against many vile and Godless acts of terror, great hatred manifest against the Jewish people, and hatred toward God Himself. Germany will receive her final judgment for the Holocaust and Russia will be judged for her atheistic hatred against her own people, as well as against Israelis and Christians. The Muslim religion will answer for centuries of vileness and defiance against the true and living God. The catastrophic level of God's wrath will be in the exact proportion to the wicked history of the nations involved.

This war could not occur until the nation of Israel was back in a portion of the Promise Land. There is not enough military might in the entire armies of the world to change God's promises. Israel is already a rich nation and is becoming richer every day. Their military is without parallel. They have discovered massive reserves of oil and eventually that discovery will be greater than all the Arab nations combined. How do we know that their oil deposits will be the world's greatest? The Promise Land and her treasures were ordained to flow as "milk and honey."

There are several promises for the discovery of oil by the Jewish people. God said, "For the precious things of heaven, for the dew, and for the deep that coucheth beneath…for they shall suck of the abundance of the seas, and of treasures hid in the sand…and let him dip his foot in oil" (Deuteronomy 33:13, 19, and 24). Someone can argue whether "the deep that coucheth beneath, treasures hid in the sand" or "dip his foot in oil" means oil deposits; but if we take these words literally, they are indeed powerful.

It is important that we know the Biblical reason for the War of Gog and Magog. It is Israel's riches and abundance that Russia covets. We know why the Muslims want to eliminate Israel, but Russia and much of her coalition forces want the treasures and wealth. If you study the unbelievable agricultural success, the technological brilliance, the military capabilities, and then add the possibility of billions of barrels of black gold, you will understand that Russia can see nothing but worldwide wealth and dominance.

One of their top politicians and advocates of this war to the south has left no room for guessing. Here are the words of Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky, a strategic ally of Putin:

The mighty God of our Bible has allowed enough of His extension of grace. It's time for judgment and it's time to make all His glory visible to the human family. Listen to God's promise of intervention. "And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes. Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them? And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face" (Ezekiel 38:16-18).

I pray that America will be there to help in this hour, but we will not be needed. I actually believe, contrary to many, that we will be faithful to Israel to the end. That will be the reason God honors America as a sheep nation in Matthew chapter twenty-five. Regardless, this will end the worldwide threat from Muslim terrorists and will sweep the Temple Mount in Jerusalem of every semblance of the false sun-god, named Allah.

Unnamed pestilences and blood will rain on the army of millions. The rain will be overflowing and mixed with hailstones, fire, and brimstones. It will be massive and will actually fall from Heaven in such a manner that no one will doubt that it is God Himself that fights for Israel. The Bible is careful to state that the slaughter of this mob of wicked people extends back to their staging countries and capital cities. "And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD. So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel" (Ezekiel 39:6-7).

Magog represents the Russian capital of Moscow and this Scripture includes the other nations which join this coalition. The judgment will leave no doubt about God's rejection of the Muslim Koran and religion. The world is trying to convince us that the Muslim god is identical to our Heavenly Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. This lie will die with Gog and Magog in the mountains of Israel and in the nations that join this end time war.

The glory of God will be manifest and the world will know. Out of this massive judgment will be a mighty visitation of Holy Ghost awakening. Joel settled the utter destruction of the Northern horde and promised the Latter Rain of God's Spirit. He said by the Holy Spirit, "But I will remove far off from you the northern army… Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things" (Joel 2:20a, 21). He added the Latter Rain promise two verses later, "He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month" (Joel 2:23b). The first month is the Feast of Trumpets, the next unfulfilled feast of Israel. It is also a Jewish type for the coming Rapture of Christ's Bride.

We are living in the golden age of the prophetic finishing of all things. Keep your eyes on the Holy Scripture and your heart in total surrender to the Lordship of our Savior and Captain, Jesus Christ.


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To: G Larry

Regardless the debate on eschatology, we know that through faith in Him, He provides for all things.

Even amongst scholars, a good grasp of eschatology only comes after a good foundation in the other doctrines in Scripture. That is one reason why eschatology comes in the rear chapters of most rigorous systematic theologies.

Psalms 2, 110, Daniel 7, and Ephesians 4 and Hebrews 1 provide significant guidance regarding the Session of the Son of God and when the seals are broken after which He sits on the throne of David forevermore.

Pretrib, premil believers tend to interpret those passages literally, while preterists tend to spiritualize the Kingdom of God and Kingdom of heaven. Pretrib, premil recognizes there are things happening today in preparation for Him opening those seals and although having an inheritance, has not yet been placed on the throne.

By remaining in fellowship with God through faith in Christ, He continues to grow us through faith in Him to be prepared to receive the crowns He has predestined for us.


101 posted on 01/11/2009 9:19:14 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: gost2

144,000 Jews that are sealed.


102 posted on 01/11/2009 9:31:22 PM PST by kingpins9
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To: PleaseNoMore

I believe Jesus was talking about the disciples in that verse.


103 posted on 01/11/2009 9:32:17 PM PST by kingpins9
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To: kingpins9
And? Jesus says absolutely nothing about coming to rapture His people from the tribulation, but instead points us to a place of refuge.

The Bible tells us about "a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands." (Rev. 7:9) "Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, 'Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from? And I said to him, 'Sir, you know.' So he said to me, 'These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the lamb." (Rev. 7:13-14)

104 posted on 01/11/2009 9:45:20 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: PleaseNoMore

The rapture occurs before his return after the tribulation period. That’s when the millenial reign begins. Jesus does not return to earth immediately after the rapture.


105 posted on 01/11/2009 9:51:56 PM PST by kingpins9
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To: topcat54
I have. Jeremiah is, for the most part, about ancient Babylon. E.g., For thus says the Lord: 'Behold, I will make you a terror to yourself and to all your friends; and they shall fall by the sword of their enemies, and your eyes shall see it. I will give all Judah into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall carry them captive to Babylon and slay them with the sword. (Jer. 20:4) Note words like “swords” and “kings” and think 586 BC. Nothing about modern Iraq.

Not according to the words of Christ. He being the Word from the beginning has foretold us all things, and those prophets recorded the happenings that would be played out again. As a matter of fact even what is going on these days has been foretold.

Christ is recorded to 'out of His mouth went a sharp twoedged sword:

'Spiritually' speaking who is the king of Babylon.... remember the word Babylon means 'confusion'. Who is to play the role of the king of Babylon where in the people are sent once again unto 'his' captivity if they do not know who he spiritually is? Daniel under the king of Babylon recorded what God told him Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, 'O MY Lord, what shall be the end of these things?'

9 And he said, 'Go thy way Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice (Christ) shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty day.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.'"

Now the end has not yet come and these words are to those who wait unto the end wherein that type of king of Babylon sets up his desolation.

Now Christ even quotes Daniel in Mark 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

20 And except that the LORD had shortened those day, no flesh should be 'saved': but for the elect's sake, whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

So those days Daniel gave have been shortened.

106 posted on 01/11/2009 9:56:36 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: topcat54
I have. Jeremiah is, for the most part, about ancient Babylon. E.g., For thus says the Lord: 'Behold, I will make you a terror to yourself and to all your friends; and they shall fall by the sword of their enemies, and your eyes shall see it. I will give all Judah into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall carry them captive to Babylon and slay them with the sword. (Jer. 20:4) Note words like “swords” and “kings” and think 586 BC. Nothing about modern Iraq.

Not according to the words of Christ. He being the Word from the beginning has foretold us all things, and those prophets recorded the happenings that would be played out again. As a matter of fact even what is going on these days has been foretold.

Christ is recorded to 'out of His mouth went a sharp twoedged sword:

'Spiritually' speaking who is the king of Babylon.... remember the word Babylon means 'confusion'. Who is to play the role of the king of Babylon where in the people are sent once again unto 'his' captivity if they do not know who he spiritually is? Daniel under the king of Babylon recorded what God told him Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, 'O MY Lord, what shall be the end of these things?'

9 And he said, 'Go thy way Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice (Christ) shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty day.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.'"

Now the end has not yet come and these words are to those who wait unto the end wherein that type of king of Babylon sets up his desolation.

Now Christ even quotes Daniel in Mark 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

20 And except that the LORD had shortened those day, no flesh should be 'saved': but for the elect's sake, whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

So those days Daniel gave have been shortened.

107 posted on 01/11/2009 9:56:51 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: topcat54
I have. Jeremiah is, for the most part, about ancient Babylon. E.g., For thus says the Lord: 'Behold, I will make you a terror to yourself and to all your friends; and they shall fall by the sword of their enemies, and your eyes shall see it. I will give all Judah into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall carry them captive to Babylon and slay them with the sword. (Jer. 20:4) Note words like “swords” and “kings” and think 586 BC. Nothing about modern Iraq.

Not according to the words of Christ. He being the Word from the beginning has foretold us all things, and those prophets recorded the happenings that would be played out again. As a matter of fact even what is going on these days has been foretold.

Christ is recorded to 'out of His mouth went a sharp twoedged sword:

'Spiritually' speaking who is the king of Babylon.... remember the word Babylon means 'confusion'. Who is to play the role of the king of Babylon where in the people are sent once again unto 'his' captivity if they do not know who he spiritually is? Daniel under the king of Babylon recorded what God told him Daniel 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, 'O MY Lord, what shall be the end of these things?'

9 And he said, 'Go thy way Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice (Christ) shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty day.

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.'"

Now the end has not yet come and these words are to those who wait unto the end wherein that type of king of Babylon sets up his desolation.

Now Christ even quotes Daniel in Mark 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

20 And except that the LORD had shortened those day, no flesh should be 'saved': but for the elect's sake, whom He hath chosen, He hath shortened the days.

So those days Daniel gave have been shortened.

108 posted on 01/11/2009 10:05:03 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: topcat54

I am sorry for the multiple posts my antique computer apparently has a mind of its own.


109 posted on 01/11/2009 10:14:25 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

if there is a ping list add me to it.


110 posted on 01/11/2009 10:28:01 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (NOBAMA 2008)
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To: PleaseNoMore
Scripture tells us that he who endures to the end shall be saved......

I agree.

111 posted on 01/11/2009 10:30:18 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Matchett-PI
1. The present-day nation of Israel is no more involved in God’s plans for the future than is France, England, Germany, the United States, etc. The teaching of the New Testament is very clear - Jesus fulfilled everything pertaining to Israel and formed the New Israel, His church. It is an abomination to claim that the church is merely a parenthesis or an afterthought in the divine scheme of redemption. In fact, the Bible clearly states that the plans of God and the wisdom of God will be revealed in His church (Eph. 3:8-11).

Jesus Himself isn't enough for some folks. We have yet to fully appreciate and act upon all that our Lord achieved in His FIRST coming, and some folks are already checking their watches and looking for the exits!

112 posted on 01/12/2009 1:44:32 AM PST by RJR_fan (Winners and lovers shape the future. Whiners and losers TRY TO PREDICT IT.)
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To: kingpins9
I believe Jesus was talking about the disciples in that verse.

Then throw out everything else Jesus said as irrelevant because He was always talking to His disciples.

113 posted on 01/12/2009 4:11:31 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: kingpins9

Tribulation? Yes. Rapture? No. The very fact there is no rapture may be one of the reasons men will see the things occur and curse God. The doctrine of the rapture is not scriptural. There’s an abundance of scriptural evidence to support Christians being here for the tribulation.


114 posted on 01/12/2009 4:15:13 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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To: Cvengr
Yes, and for that reason I should live as though I'm more concerned about my drive to work in the snow this morning, than whether I've properly allocated today's villains to the characters in Revelations.
115 posted on 01/12/2009 4:51:41 AM PST by G Larry (Barack's character has been molded by extremists)
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To: Vaquero
I remember Morg and I-Morg.

I remember Mindy.

116 posted on 01/12/2009 5:39:38 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Pam Dawber RULES!

(what ever happened to her?)


117 posted on 01/12/2009 5:41:22 AM PST by Vaquero ( "an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Just mythoughts
Not according to the words of Christ. He being the Word from the beginning has foretold us all things, and those prophets recorded the happenings that would be played out again. As a matter of fact even what is going on these days has been foretold.

There is nothing in the Bible about them being “played out again”. Literal ancient Babylon was long gone by the time the NT was written. Everyone knew that. And so we can find no verse in the NT that speaks of a resurrected, future literal Babylon. It only exists in the futurist fantasy interpretation.

'Spiritually' speaking who is the king of Babylon....

There is no “king of Babylon” because there is no Babylon. If you want to spiritualize all the prophecies, that’s fine by me, but you might want to think about the implications.

Now Christ even quotes Daniel in Mark 13:19 For in those days shall be affliction, such as was not from the beginning of the creation which God created unto this time, neither shall be.

What verse from Daniel is Jesus quoting in Mark 13?

118 posted on 01/12/2009 5:45:35 AM PST by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends become dispensationalists.")
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To: restornu; Tennessee Nana
One does not have to be LDS to read these things, nor will those who hearts are harden be able to receive understanding of what is on the written page!

One does not have to be a memeber of the LDS Organization® to read ANYTHING in the Bible; but, by being one, the UNDERSTANDING of the Bible is very difficult.

119 posted on 01/12/2009 5:47:11 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: kingpins9
They have already condemned Israel’s cast lead operation.

huh?

120 posted on 01/12/2009 5:49:17 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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