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Southern Baptist Decline and God's Bottom Line
The Washington Post ^ | December 2008 | David Waters

Posted on 12/22/2008 7:16:10 PM PST by Alex Murphy

Times are tough, even in the salvation market. After decades of growth, the nation's largest group of Protestants, the Southern Baptist Convention, is reporting losses (in church membership and recorded baptisms) for the third year in a row. Baptisms are at a 20-year low, a figure liable to put an eternity-conscious church into a severe depression.

Cutbacks at Southern Baptist seminaries and agencies are even hitting the denomination's bold, new marketing strategy designed to spread the gospel (and increase the flock) to every soul in North America by 2020. The campaign, called "God's Plan for Sharing" (Yes, GPS), includes a new image media campaign, "We Are Southern Baptists."

But some SBC leaders are concerned that the strategy will fail. The 2009 budget includes zero funding for GPS. "You can't have a vision that doesn't have a funded budget," John Avant, former vice president of evangelization at the mission board, told Bob Smietana of The Tennessean.

Where there is no funded vision, the people perish. It's hard for me to believe there might be a single soul in North America who hasn't heard about Jesus. But I suppose if a church is going to measures its success by cultural standards -- in a market economy, that means statistical gains and losses -- then it's going to look for culturally-appropriate ways to assess its product and improve its market share. But isn't there a more faithful way to measure the church's success?

No doubt there are market forces behind the SBC's declining statistics.

1. The product is less appealing. Southern Baptists still profess the belief in Christ is the only path to salvation. But a new Pew Forum analysis shows that a majority of all American Christians (52%) think at least some non-Christian faiths can lead to

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.washingtonpost.com ...


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I suppose if a church is going to measure its success by cultural standards -- in a market economy, that means statistical gains and losses -- then it's going to look for culturally-appropriate ways to assess its product and improve its market share. But isn't there a more faithful way to measure the church's success? ...

...The market is changing. Nearly all predominantly white Christian denominations (Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Episcopal) in America are seeing a slow but steady decline in membership, a decline that reflects changing U.S. demographics. "This is not about orthodoxy or unorthodoxy or failed methods," Baptist historian Bill Leonard, dean of the Wake Forest School of Divinity in North Carolina, told Peter Smith of the (Louisville) Courier-Journal. "This is about demographics and sociology."

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Liberal Protestantism and Liberal Catholicism

"Who can be surprised, then, that the Protestant denominations that have been seriously infected with liberalism (the so-called "mainline churches") are rapidly declining in numbers, not just in relation to the national population generally but even in absolute numbers?"

1 posted on 12/22/2008 7:16:10 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Alex Murphy

Yet, independent Baptist churches are growing in leaps and bounds.


2 posted on 12/22/2008 7:19:09 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Alex Murphy

I was under the impression that conservative sects were growing (Evangelicals, Baptists, conservative Catholics, & Mormons), while the lefty churches were declining (Episcopalian, Church of Christ, etc).


3 posted on 12/22/2008 7:21:00 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Alex Murphy

bfl


4 posted on 12/22/2008 7:22:12 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: doc1019

Please explain.


5 posted on 12/22/2008 7:22:58 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: doc1019

Yup - they sure are. I attend 1 regularly and another once a week...

I wished I had this kind of preachin’ when I was growin’ up. My Mom says I was cheated - and she’s right. ;-)


6 posted on 12/22/2008 7:24:03 PM PST by TomServo
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To: Alex Murphy

I don’t know about other Southern Baptist Churches, but at ours we had more baptisms during 2008 that we had had in the last 5-6 years together! Basically we cut down the gimmicks, put a lot of effort in community outreach programs such as Vacation Bible School, and we prayed.


7 posted on 12/22/2008 7:24:34 PM PST by Former Fetus
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To: Alex Murphy

Sounds like they need a federal bail out.


8 posted on 12/22/2008 7:28:02 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: doc1019
Yet, independent Baptist churches are growing in leaps and bounds.

Nearly all predominantly white Christian denominations (Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, Episcopal) in America are seeing a slow but steady decline in membership, a decline that reflects changing U.S. demographics.

Do you have information that would prove this article wrong?

9 posted on 12/22/2008 7:29:00 PM PST by Stourme
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To: St. Louis Conservative

What is there to explain?


10 posted on 12/22/2008 7:30:12 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Alex Murphy
Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD GOD, that *I* will send a famine in the land, NOT a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of HEARING the words of the LORD:

Now ‘social justice’ is spread so far in modern Christianity that the majority think when Jesus said “Feed my sheep”, they think he was commanding soup lines and government welfare.

11 posted on 12/22/2008 7:31:01 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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The article says Baptist church is declining. You say otherwise. I’d like to hear your rebuttal of the article, beyond a simple statement. I’m not being a smart alec, I’m honestly curious about this topic.


12 posted on 12/22/2008 7:31:55 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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To: Stourme

Other than everything you posted was in italics … so were do I begin?


13 posted on 12/22/2008 7:34:21 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Alex Murphy

If this is hitting the Southern Baptists, I would think it would be affecting other denominations too.

Or is this just Newsweek harranging the Southern Baptists like they always do the Catholics?


14 posted on 12/22/2008 7:35:01 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Explain what?


15 posted on 12/22/2008 7:35:03 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

How is the church growing? Do you have more than anecdotal evidence?


16 posted on 12/22/2008 7:36:26 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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Southern Baptist

Operative words here. Independent Baptist churches are growing in number.

17 posted on 12/22/2008 7:40:36 PM PST by doc1019
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The product is less appealing. Southern Baptists still profess the belief in Christ is the only path to salvation.

I wonder if the author has a better plan?

18 posted on 12/22/2008 7:40:55 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: doc1019

source? (or just BS ?)


19 posted on 12/22/2008 7:43:11 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: doc1019

What’s the difference between the two, and why do you think independent Baptist congregations are growing, while Southern Baptists (apparently, according to Newsweak) are declining?


20 posted on 12/22/2008 7:43:45 PM PST by St. Louis Conservative
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