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1 posted on 12/03/2008 10:19:06 PM PST by voiceinthewind
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Cizik expressed an obvious distaste for Sarah Palin, citing her stand on the environment as "ignorance" and accusing her of lacking in humility, a trait which he says he admired in Obama.

"I for one welcome our new Chicago overlords." -- R. Cizik

40 posted on 12/04/2008 5:45:10 AM PST by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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"We're not Catholics who oppose contraception per se."

Oh, that's obvious. You're just so...enlightened.

It's not much of a leap, actually, from embracing contraception (which all Christians opposed prior to 1930), to going soft on same-sex "marriage."

He thinks he's against that now...but get back to him in a year or two...

43 posted on 12/04/2008 6:58:28 AM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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I’d like to point out to our Evangelical brothers that this is precisely the sort of thing that happens when a body of believers refuses to accept the authority of the Pope to teach definitively. When we reject the earthly authority left to us by Our Lord, we each become “a papacy of one”, free to believe and teach whatever strikes our individual fancy as “Christian truth”. This is why we see “Christian teachers” these days promoting contraception, abortion, female priests, infantacide, euthanasia, and other forms of Satanic rot “under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit”.

Those of you Evangelicals who are tired of seeing your leaders constantly redfine Christianity: please consider coming home to Rome. The Catholic Church doesn’t change her doctrines to fit the times. The Church is founded on the Rock.


45 posted on 12/04/2008 7:25:20 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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You cannot be "evangelical" and "Give the biblical point of view a different slant."
Evangelical: “Of, relating to, or in accordance with the Christian gospel, especially one of the four gospel books of the New Testament. Of, relating to, or being a Protestant church that founds its teaching on the gospel. Of, relating to, or being a Christian church believing in the sole authority and inerrancy of the Bible, in salvation only through regeneration, and in a spiritually transformed personal life.” - American Heritage Dictionary

49 posted on 12/04/2008 10:16:24 AM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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Further proof that the label, “evangelical”, no longer means anything!


53 posted on 12/04/2008 12:26:17 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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Cizik expressed an obvious distaste for Sarah Palin, citing her stand on the environment as “ignorance” and accusing her of lacking in humility, a trait which he says he admired in Obama.

Wait, what?

:-D )))

Man, the stupid piles up so fast you need bat wings to stay above it.

55 posted on 12/04/2008 3:27:51 PM PST by RichInOC (Obama/Biden '08: "We Are Not Ruled By Murderers, But Only--By Their Friends."--Rudyard Kipling)
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Never heard of the guy. I would probably be considered an evangelical; I really dislike self annointed/appointed “spokesmen/woman for any “group”.

He sounds like just another guy who figured out a gig to earn a paycheck.

No true Christ follower (that means someone who has read the Bible, understands what it teaches, and follows those core teachings) could possibly have beliefs like this. It’s impossible, as it directly contradicts core beliefs of the OT and NT.


62 posted on 12/04/2008 9:08:44 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I can't wait for January 20, 2013")
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Cizik was a close associate and supporter of NAE President Ted Haggard during his recent gay prostitution scandal.

Any Christians still in the NAE really need to clean house.


65 posted on 12/05/2008 11:17:44 PM PST by iowamark
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