Posted on 12/03/2008 10:19:06 PM PST by voiceinthewind
Shock: Evangelical Leader Believes in Gay Civil Unions, Says OK to Vote for Obama
By John-Henry Westen
WASHINGTON, December 3, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The Chief Lobbyist and Vice President for Governmental Affairs for the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) gave an interview to National Public Radio yesterday in which he admitted to shifting on gay “marriage,” voting for Barack Obama and having a marked distaste for Sarah Palin. Richard Cizik, spokesman for the NAE, which represents 45,000 US churches, told NPR yesterday that he voted for Obama in the Virginia primary but didn't want to reveal how he voted in the general election.
"I happen to think in the primary he was the best choice," said Cizik of Obama. Cizik explained that he held party philosophy and the character of the candidate above particular issues. He thus suggested: "It would be possible to for Evangelicals to disagree with Barack Obama on same sex marriage and abortion and yet vote for him."
Cizik expressed an obvious distaste for Sarah Palin, citing her stand on the environment as "ignorance" and accusing her of lacking in humility, a trait which he says he admired in Obama.
Asked if he had changed his mind on homosexual “marriage,” Cizik replied, "I'm shifting I have to admit. In other words I would willingly say that I believe in civil unions. I don't officially support redefining marriage from its traditional definition I don't think."
He advocated that Evangelicals change focus away from the homosexual “marriage” debate. Revealingly, he said on the subject, "Maybe we need to reevaluate this and look at it a little differently. I'm always looking for ways to reframe issues. Give the biblical point of view a different slant."
Cizik said he would "absolutely" support Obama in his scheme to reduce abortions by "government supplying contraception." He explained, "We're not Catholics who oppose contraception per se."
Listen to the NPR interview here: http://www.npr.org/templates/player/mediaPlayer.html?action=...
This guy and his association are great examples of why Sola Scriptura is so important.
This election has revealed that all Christian churches have more tares than we thought. If Scripture is the guide than we know what this guy promotes is wrong.
FWIW, there are a lot of Christians standing with you.
Oh, that's obvious. You're just so...enlightened.
It's not much of a leap, actually, from embracing contraception (which all Christians opposed prior to 1930), to going soft on same-sex "marriage."
He thinks he's against that now...but get back to him in a year or two...
Are we talking about the remnants of Carl McIntire's Bible Presbyterian Church? They're down to just 30 congregations in the USA; the rest of them eventually merged with the PCA. According to Wikipedia,
In 1955-1956 a split occurred in the Bible Presbyterian Church. One faction eventually took the name Evangelical Presbyterian Church. A few years later this group merged with the Reformed Presbyterian Church in North America, General Synod to form the Reformed Presbyterian Church, Evangelical Synod; that body in turn merged with the Presbyterian Church in America in 1982.
I’d like to point out to our Evangelical brothers that this is precisely the sort of thing that happens when a body of believers refuses to accept the authority of the Pope to teach definitively. When we reject the earthly authority left to us by Our Lord, we each become “a papacy of one”, free to believe and teach whatever strikes our individual fancy as “Christian truth”. This is why we see “Christian teachers” these days promoting contraception, abortion, female priests, infantacide, euthanasia, and other forms of Satanic rot “under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit”.
Those of you Evangelicals who are tired of seeing your leaders constantly redfine Christianity: please consider coming home to Rome. The Catholic Church doesn’t change her doctrines to fit the times. The Church is founded on the Rock.
I agree. Doug Kmiec has the same position, I personally don’t see how it’s going to work. Birth control is universally accessible now, and it sure hasn’t stemmed the tide of teen promiscuity and pregnancy.
Alex Murphy, is there a doctrine universally shared amongst Protestants regarding birth control and abortion?
How do you define "Protestant"? What non-Catholic, non-Orthodox religious groups would you yourself group under the label "Protestant"?
Evangelical: “Of, relating to, or in accordance with the Christian gospel, especially one of the four gospel books of the New Testament. Of, relating to, or being a Protestant church that founds its teaching on the gospel. Of, relating to, or being a Christian church believing in the sole authority and inerrancy of the Bible, in salvation only through regeneration, and in a spiritually transformed personal life.” - American Heritage Dictionary
“Are we talking about the remnants of Carl McIntire’s Bible Presbyterian Church? They’re down to just 30 congregations in the USA; the rest of them eventually merged with the PCA. According to Wikipedia,”
One would have to go to the Bible Presbyterian web site and check it out for themselves.
“Those of you Evangelicals who are tired of seeing your leaders constantly redfine Christianity: please consider coming home to Rome. The Catholic Church doesn’t change her doctrines to fit the times. The Church is founded on the Rock.”
Hmm, good question.
Further proof that the label, “evangelical”, no longer means anything!
LOL... And she is 100% right!
Wait, what?
:-D )))
Man, the stupid piles up so fast you need bat wings to stay above it.
These Protestant church groups were members as of 2008:
The PCA seems to be heading in a dangerous direction. It would be a start to restoring its credibility if it were to withdraw from the NAE. Of course, it would do more if it would expel Redeemer in New York.
So you all don’t have to worry about folks like Cizik or Kmiec in the Catholic church?
Sure, we have people like that. We just don’t have to take them seriously.
Nonetheless, I don't think that's the church I'll end up attending in NYC.
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