Who Changed The Sabbath to Sunday?

The reason most churches meet on Sunday is due to Mary and the others seeing the resurrected Jesus on Sunday.

Which would be the law set fourth by Constatine to bring Pagans into the Church...Is this your understanding?

Jesus rose on Sunday, this was taken on as the new Sabbath.

Chapter and verse....please?

What do I know, I'm Jewish anyway.

So was He (Christ)!

I guess so if it is also ok to honor the sabbath on Sunday or Tuesday or whenever.

I did not write the Law, God did so if he said don't murder why would he say honor whichever day you like?

The point is to be lead by the Spirit and you will do the works of Jesus and the Law will not apply to you.

1. Who set the canon of what is and is not scripture?
2. On what day did they go to church?

There is more to the story than just Sunday. Everything in the Old Testament is a prefiguration of the perfect to come in the New.

Besides shifting the primary service to Sunday, Christians shifted every day in the week. For instance, Jews fasted on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Christians shifted this to Wednesdays and Fridays.

Christians understood that the Law *meant* something other than the literal word: it was a message about Christ. For the Christian, all of existence was changed on the resurrection.

The argument for the recognition of Sunday as the true Sabbath is as follows:

1. Christ chose to be resurrected on that day to show this shift in the Cosmos.

2. The Church Fathers who recognized the canon saw no discrepancy in this.

3. Some had argued that the Old Testament should be abandoned. Your argument was one reason they stated it should not be canonized. The Church Fathers rebuked these teachers pointing out that they did not understand what the Law was pointing to.

Once again, the true Sabbath *is* Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday is the Sabbath perfected. This was demonstrated by Christ in his resurrection and by the Church through its practice.

If you can’t find it in the Bible, I’m not surprised. Most of the Jews completely missed Christ in the Old Testament, asking, “Where is it written?” Well, it was everywhere. It just didn’t give an exact physical description, which still probably wouldn’t have been enough.

Quite simply.

After the ascension of Christ, the apostles and disciples continued attending Sabbath at the temple as they had always done. The next day, Sunday, they met and celebrated the Lord’s Day with the breaking of the bread.

In 70AD, the Romans destroyed the temple and the practice of Sabbath ended among the Jewish followers of Jesus and together with the Gentiles they continued with the practice of the Lord’s Day.

Sunday then is the new Sabbath which has come with the new covenant of Jesus. Until fairly recently, Sunday was the day of rest, when there was to be no work, no shopping and celebration of the Lord. That is why so many states had what were known as “blue laws”. In fact, there was a Supreme Court case in which a Jewish merchant was charged with selling goods on Sunday. He argued that since he was Jewish, he observed Saturday as Sabbath and therefore, was not violating the Christian Sabbath. The court upheld his conviction saying that Sabbath was observed on Sunday in America.

There is no grand consipiracy to usurp or change the Commandments. Many Jewish practices were kept, some changed and some discarded within the new Christian comunity.

Christ fulfilled the Old Law. We are no longer under the Law. Those that live by the Law, will die by the law. Because nobody can perfectly obey the Law, all are guilty UNDER the Law.

The Law has been perfected, in Christ. NOT in obedience to the Law, but, in Grace, through Christ.

Somebody said it’s apples and oranges. It is. The ‘sabbath’ hasn’t been “replaced” with Sunday. No.

The sabbath is the Old Law.

We worship on Sunday BECAUSE that is a first century example. What we KNOW of the first century church is that they met on Sunday: Acts 20:7 (NIV) - “On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.”

The command is to assemble and to break bread. The first century Apostolic example is Sunday. That is not related to the sabbath, in any way. It’s a separate issue.

The sabbath is the Old Law.

What exactly does this mean?

Jesus was crucified Friday, also known as Good Friday, He was silent Saturday, rose Sunday, the third day.
Does it have to be word for word in Scripture to be so?
We believe in God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, The Holy Trinity. Trinity is not in the bible but the Father Son and Holy Spirit is.
Also, it is in Scripture, there are many things to be told and left out of Scripture, we are told enough.
There is also Tradition, we had Tradition before Scripture of the New Testament.
Do not have time to look up the quote on things being left out, you find it, it is in there.
I take a few minutes out from caring for a TBI and blind grandson.
I also do not limit God to Scripture only theology.

Which would be the law set fourth by Constantine to bring Pagans into the Church...Is this your understanding?

This "Anything Jewish Syndrome" began long before Constantine. I believe it started with Simon Magus [Acts 8] and is one of the most central themes in the New Testament. The abolition of the Sabbath was indeed finalized by Constantine at Nicaea and made this dogma part of the institutionalized Church/State system that now has influence over most of professed Christianity.

If you read the church fathers you can see this insidious cancer (Sunday worship and Sabbath neglect) begin to grow immediately. By Nicaea it was in full bloom and the sanction of Constantine merely sealed the deal. By allowing pagan superstitions and Holy Days into Christianity ...indeed it made it easier for PAX ROMANA since Church was now State and State was now Church....similar to what we now see as The Vatican.

No.

Romans 6:1 “What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? 3Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? 4We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.”

The New Testament re-affirms its moral code, and can and does do so WITHOUT reaffirming the traditions of the Old Law that were perfected in the death of a Savior.

If you look at the life of Jesus, his ministry is spent divining the difference between the two: tradition and morality.

This is a waste of time. The Bible says don’t judge anyone because of the day the worship - next topic.

God said “ If ye love me, keep my Commandments. These are Ten Commandments not Ten suggestions. The Fourth Commandment(Exodus 20 verse 8) says; Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it Holy six days shalt thou labor and do all thy works but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord. There is no clearer words than that.

It was Constantinople who changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday.

No one actually changed the Sabbath to Sunday. The seventh day of the week is the Sabbath day and it is Saturday. The first day of the week is Sunday. People are encouraged to pray and worship on every day of the week. The Jews are commanded to keep the Sabbath holy.

These are Paul's words, but regardless does it say that the Lord's sabbaths are not to be observed?

Where do you draw the line? If you are gonna follow the Sabbath, then there are tons of others things you need to be doing. Jesus summed up all commandments down to 2.

After the ascension of Christ, the apostles and disciples continued attending Sabbath at the temple as they had always done. The next day, Sunday, they met and celebrated the Lord’s Day with the breaking of the bread.

Here's the problem with that statement. You cannot find that anywhere in the New Testament. It is an invention of mortal mankind! Unfortunately.....most folks agree with you because they have never read the Greek. They only believe it because it is what they have been taught......most since early childhood.

...The practice of meeting together on the first day of the week for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice is indicated in Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2; in Apocalypse 1:10, it is called the Lord's day. In the Didache (14) the injunction is given: "On the Lord's Day come together and break bread. And give thanks (offer the Eucharist), after confessing your sins that your sacrifice may be pure". St. Ignatius (Ep. ad Magnes. ix) speaks of Christians as "no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also Our Life rose again". In the Epistle of Barnabas (xv) we read: "Wherefore, also, we keep the eight day (i.e. the first of the week) with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead".

St. Justin is the first Christian writer to call the day Sunday (I Apol., lxvii) in the celebrated passage in which he describes the worship offered by the early Christians on that day to God. The fact that they met together and offered public worship on Sunday necessitated a certain rest from work on that day. However, Tertullian (202) is the first writer who expressly mentions the Sunday rest: "We, however (just as tradition has taught us), on the day of the Lord's Resurrection ought to guard not only against kneeling, but every posture and office of solicitude, deferring even our businesses lest we give any place to the devil" ("De orat.", xxiii; cf. "Ad nation.", I, xiii; "Apolog.", xvi).

These and similar indications show that during the first three centuries practice and tradition had consecrated the Sunday to the public worship of God by the hearing of the Mass and the resting from work. With the opening of the fourth century positive legislation, both ecclesiastical and civil, began to make these duties more definite. The Council of Elvira (300) decreed: "If anyone in the city neglects to come to church for three Sundays, let him be excommunicated for a short time so that he may be corrected" (xxi).

In the Apostolic Constitutions, which belong to the end of the fourth century, both the hearing of the Mass and the rest from work are prescribed, and the precept is attributed to the Apostles. The express teaching of Christ and St. Paul prevented the early Christians from falling into the excesses of Jewish Sabbatarianism in the observance of the Sunday, and yet we find St. Cæsarius of Arles in the sixth century teaching that the holy Doctors of the Church had decreed that the whole glory of the Jewish Sabbath had been transferred to the Sunday, and that Christians must keep the Sunday holy in the same way as the Jews had been commanded to keep holy the Sabbath Day. He especially insisted on the people hearing the whole of the Mass and not leaving the church after the Epistle and the Gospel had been read. He taught them that they should come to Vespers and spend the rest of the day in pious reading and prayer. As with the Jewish Sabbath, the observance of the Christian Sunday began with sundown on Saturday and lasted till the same time on Sunday.

Until quite recent times some theologians taught that there was an obligation under pain of venial sin of assisting at vespers as well as of hearing Mass, but the opinion rests on no certain foundation and is now commonly abandoned. The common opinion maintains that, while it is highly becoming to be present at Vespers on Sunday, there is no strict obligation to be present. The method of reckoning the Sunday from sunset to sunset continued in some places down to the seventeenth century, but in general since the Middle Ages the reckoning from midnight to midnight has been followed. When the parochial system was introduced, the laity were taught that they must hear Mass and the preaching of the Word of God on Sundays in their parish church. However, toward the end of the thirteenth century, the friars began to teach that the precept of hearing Mass might be fulfilled by hearing it in their churches, and after long and severe struggles this was expressly allowed by the Holy See. Nowadays, the precept may be fulfilled by hearing Mass in any place except a strictly private oratory, and provided Mass is not celebrated on a portable altar by a privilege which is merely personal....

--New Advent

Thank you, did not have the time to put up the research of which you completed. This is on target and message.

Jesus was crucified Friday, also known as Good Friday, He was silent Saturday, rose Sunday, the third day.

Then.....Our Lord lied [Matthew 12:40] when He told us He would be in the heart of the Earth for Three Days...and Three Nights!

As a matter of fact....this was to be his only sign given for proof of His Messiahship. That's how important the time factor is. He did not say Two Nights and part of Two days.

[Matthew 12:39-40] But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.