Baptism does not wash away our sins, belief in Christ does. Quote the scripture that says baptism washes away sin, please. Baptism is symbolic of Christ dying and raising from the dead. Gettin baptized is a public observance of our conversion.
YOu said it yourself. Different churches battle over what the Bible says, so, in a nutshell, religion is divisive.
Why would you need to minister to other believers? Why not take it to the streets and minister there?
As far as believing the Bible being inspired by God, I take that on faith.
I truly believe that the Catholic church is not where God wants me to be.
FYI it is the Holy Spirit living within us that convicts us when we do something wrong. Hence the verse about grieving the Holy Spirit.
Let’s face it the only thing you’ve got to back up your argument is church doctrine. No scripture.
Hello!! Some of Christ’s disciples were Jews, not Catholics.
What makes you think I make up christianity as I go? Listen to yourself. Do you know haughtiness is one of the seven deadly sins? Just ask Lucifer.
They condemn pedophilia? Right. What do they do when sexual abuse happens, they cart him off to another church to do some more damage there. This mentality is unacceptable. They should strip him of his title, and file criminal charges against him. Look at how much it cost the church, monetarily speaking, all the lawsuits, and it all could have been avoided. You don’t send an alcoholic to tend bar anymore than commonsense tells you to put a pedophile with children.
The church is responsible for the Priests actions.
Again with the dig about my christianity. I’m willing to bet my husband’s pay that you don’t win too many to Christ.
So it’s okay for me to read the Bible? Goody, goody. I know, it’s a last resort (smothered in sarcasm)reading that pesky Bible, and me, a commoner at that. Well, I think that if the Caltholic church can skew the scriptures to their way of thinking and try and justify their way of believing, so can I. How dare you question my faith. Be careful, God has a thing about a prideful person, He might just take you down a peg or two or three.
I just had an epiphany. I now know why you think I need the Catholic church, more money to pay for all those lawsuits you’ve got going from all those pedophiles. See what it’s like to have someone bring your integrity into question.
Only applying what would be comfortable for me, is that right? Then I’m doing something wrong because my life is less than comfortable, but then I guess you know better than I, since you are all knowing.
Very impressive comments. Well done and encouragement to you.
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Baptism does not wash away our sins, belief in Christ does. Quote the scripture that says baptism washes away sin, please.
Acts 22:16, 1 Peter 3:19-20.
Baptism is symbolic of Christ dying and raising from the dead. Gettin baptized is a public observance of our conversion.
No. Baptism is a sign of OUR dying with Christ and OUR rising with Him into a new life. Thats exactly what Colossians 2:12 says by the way.
YOu said it yourself. Different churches battle over what the Bible says, so, in a nutshell, religion is divisive.
No. False conclusions and opinions are divisive.
Why would you need to minister to other believers?
Why would I not?
Why not take it to the streets and minister there?
I do.
As far as believing the Bible being inspired by God, I take that on faith.
Okay, but where in the Bible does it say that Matthew is inspired? How do you even know according to the Bible alone what books are supposed to be in the Bible? You really have no idea do you?
I truly believe that the Catholic church is not where God wants me to be.
Im not surprised. I dont think youre open to the truth right now.
FYI it is the Holy Spirit living within us that convicts us when we do something wrong. Hence the verse about grieving the Holy Spirit.
I understand, but that doesnt help in any way when you have to so-called Bible believing Protestants coming to opposite conclusions now does it?
Lets face it the only thing youve got to back up your argument is church doctrine. No scripture.
Wrong. Deal with the verses I posted. Can you? You didnt even know about Colossians 2:12 did you?
Hello!! Some of Christs disciples were Jews, not Catholics.
All of Christs faithful disciples were Catholics. Originally they were indeed Jews. Then they discovered the Messiah and believed in Him. Christ founded the Catholic Church for them.
What makes you think I make up christianity as I go? Listen to yourself. Do you know haughtiness is one of the seven deadly sins? Just ask Lucifer.
I dont talk to Lucifer. Do you? Also, I am not being haughty, just truthful. And if you have enough courage to admit you didnt about or didnt remember that Colossians verse then you would have to admit you made up an idea or adopted an idea that was untrue.
They condemn pedophilia? Right.
The Church has always condemned sexual sin.
What do they do when sexual abuse happens, they cart him off to another church to do some more damage there.
The Church does no such thing but some bishops did. I do not make the mistake of confusing the Church with a relative handful of bishops who defied Church teaching and practice. You, however, make that mistake just as you write they when we are not talking about a plural. The Church is singular.
This mentality is unacceptable. They should strip him of his title, and file criminal charges against him.
The Church cannot file criminal charges against anyone. It is not the civil or criminal law. And all priests who have committed such sins are in fact stripped of their positions.
Look at how much it cost the church, monetarily speaking, all the lawsuits, and it all could have been avoided.
Absolutely. But men sin. The Church doesnt.
You dont send an alcoholic to tend bar anymore than commonsense tells you to put a pedophile with children.
I agree. You also dont confuse the Church which is the immaculate bride of Christ. Are you familiar with Ephesians 5: 25-27?
The church is responsible for the Priests actions.
No. Some bishops and the priests themselves are responsible. The Church did nothing wrong.
Again with the dig about my christianity. Im willing to bet my husbands pay that you dont win too many to Christ.
Oh, youd be very surprised. Also, stating the truth about your approach to Christianity is not a dig.
So its okay for me to read the Bible? Goody, goody. I know, its a last resort (smothered in sarcasm)reading that pesky Bible, and me, a commoner at that. Well, I think that if the Caltholic church can skew the scriptures to their way of thinking and try and justify their way of believing, so can I. How dare you question my faith.
I never once questioned your faith. Feel free to attack what I say, but at least attack what I actually say and not just make things up. I NEVER questioned your faith.
Be careful, God has a thing about a prideful person, He might just take you down a peg or two or three.
God might take me down for many things. I am a sinner as are you and all the rest here. I have no doubt that I am a sinner. Why do you act as if you arent one too?
I just had an epiphany. I now know why you think I need the Catholic church, more money to pay for all those lawsuits youve got going from all those pedophiles. See what its like to have someone bring your integrity into question.
Where are you getting these bizarre ideas? I do not remember calling into question your integrity. What I did do was point out your mistakes. Did I even use the word integrity anywhere with you? In what post? Also, your bizarre idea of joining the Church to only pay off lawsuits is exactly that bizarre. Guess how much Ive had to pay off into lawsuits since this whole crisis came to light in the MSM? Zilch. There have been zero lawsuits in my diocese. ZERO. It alls depends on the bishop. We have good ones. They follow Church teaching. ZERO cases. ZERO lawsuits since all this opened and before that I dont know because I didnt live here.
Only applying what would be comfortable for me, is that right?
Yes.
Then Im doing something wrong because my life is less than comfortable, but then I guess you know better than I, since you are all knowing.
Okay, lets try these on for size: birth control. The Bible according to all Christians before modern times said it was wrong. Whats your stance? Divorce and remarriage? Jesus condemns it. And you? Celibacy? Jesus commends it (did you even know that?). How about you? Oh, and how about the real toughies for you: obedience to the Church. Whats the Bible say about that?