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Women win bloody battle at the Synod
Telegraph ^
| July 8, 2008
| George Pitcher
Posted on 07/08/2008 5:56:30 AM PDT by NYer
Make no mistake, the Anglo-Catholics were done over at the General Synod in York in the debate over women bishops. This being the Church of England, their humiliation was accompanied by lots of hand-wringing, a good deal of guilt and a late attempt to stop the beating entirely, when the Bishop of Durham intervened like a worried boxing referee.
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The Synod was fraught and emotional
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But it was bloody just the same. After nearly eight hours, all that the Catholic Conscience had to show for its pains was a motion that now indicates that it is the wish of a "majority" of the Synod for women to be bishops and the word "statutory" now stands in front of the proposed code of practice.
- Read more from George Pitcher
- Damian Thompson: Church of England is Protestant again
No structural provisions, no special arrangements, no statutory transfer, no flying bishops and certainly no super-bishops. I had thought that super-bishops were just flying bishops with special powers ("Is it a bird? Is it a plane?") but it doesn't matter what they are, because the Catholics can't have them anyway.
This is meant to be the Church's parliament. But it has none of the up-front rough and tumble of the House of Commons. It's more like the House of Lords without the spivs. This makes it slightly creepy; like a mafia movie, the luckless are stabbed in the back while they're being hugged.
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TOPICS: Current Events; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: anglican; synod
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posted on
07/08/2008 5:56:30 AM PDT
by
NYer
To: Huber; sionnsar
This was posted to one of my sites. How do you feel about this decision?
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posted on
07/08/2008 5:57:52 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: NYer; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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posted on
07/08/2008 5:57:58 AM PDT
by
narses
(...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
confusion reigns when you dont have a true authority.
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posted on
07/08/2008 6:02:03 AM PDT
by
raygunfan
To: raygunfan
Scripture makes good authority. They might want to examine it.
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posted on
07/08/2008 6:05:21 AM PDT
by
Mr. Lucky
To: NYer
Love the title. “Women” don’t win anything here. Advocates for a post-christian religion win. Real women are generally conservative on matters like this.
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posted on
07/08/2008 6:14:10 AM PDT
by
Rippin
To: Rippin
“Real women are generally conservative on matters like this.”
That’s right. ;-)
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posted on
07/08/2008 6:20:17 AM PDT
by
SumProVita
("Cogito ergo sum pro vita." .....updated Descartes)
To: raygunfan
So maybe we should just go out and get us an infallible pope then....huh?
No thanx, we answer only to Jesus thank you very much.
To: Mr. Lucky
>>Scripture makes good authority. They might want to examine it.”
Many take leave of the fact that the overwhelming majority of Anglicans do not and will not ever compromise the authority of scripture over secular humanism.
To: NYer
This was posted to one of my sites. How do you feel about this decision? Bad decision.
And while all I know of this Synod is what's posted here, I will note that elements of it (the supremecy of the Zeitgeist) sound very much like the diocesan Synod that eventually resulted in my leaving (P)ECUSA.
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posted on
07/08/2008 6:37:21 AM PDT
by
sionnsar
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posted on
07/08/2008 6:38:28 AM PDT
by
sionnsar
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To: Mr. Lucky
Scripture makes good authority. Says who?
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posted on
07/08/2008 6:50:56 AM PDT
by
Romulus
("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
To: Romulus
In a nutshell, my friend. Wow, and in only two words!
To: Romulus
To: NYer
I couldn't resist clicking on the link which said "Church of England Protestant again". Amidst all the high fiving and rejoicing about this vote to allow women to become bishops, as an onlooker, one can't help but get the same feeling one would get when watching people filing gaily aboard the
Titanic, waving to friends and loved ones, completely unaware of what awaits them.
The rejoicing by the Telegraph hacks and those quoted seems to be largely due to the fact that they've flipped the bird at the Catholic Church, rather than at having apostolically reenergized the Church or returned to doctrinal sanity.
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posted on
07/08/2008 7:20:46 AM PDT
by
marshmallow
(An infallible Bible is useless without an infallible interpreter)
To: marshmallow; sionnsar; Huber
Amidst all the high fiving and rejoicing about this vote to allow women to become bishops, as an onlooker, one can't help but get the same feeling one would get when watching people filing gaily aboard the Titanic, waving to friends and loved ones, completely unaware of what awaits them. Interesting analogy. This, like the approval of artificial contraception at a previous Lambeth conference, is another slippery slope down which people slide. I came across the following post at Fr. Dwight Longenecker's blog yesterday and considered posting it as a thread. Instead, I will post it here and leave it up to Sionnsar or Huber to weigh its worth. IMHO, the author has succinctly summed up the situation.
Women Bishops Debate Goes On
Here's
a defense of women bishops in the Church of England. The author, Jane Hedges, was ordained in my diocese when I was an Anglican priest fifteen years ago.
Notice the drift of her arguments: they are based on three things: utilitarianism, sentimentality and politics.
The utilitarian argument is, "Women priests do a good job. People like them. They'll be great bishops." The sentimental argument is, "Jane is such a nice person. She is so spiritual. She is a great Christian. It would be so hurtful and so unfair not to allow her to be a bishop."
The political argument is, "This is a question of equal rights. Women have been oppressed by the powers of patriarchy long enough."
The proponents of women's ordination once tried to make their case from Scripture and theology and tradition. I think they still try to, but for the most part the utilitarian, sentimental and political arguments prevail. Somone once observed, "In the sixteenth century the Protestants threw out the authority of the Pope in favor of the authority of the Bible. In the twentieth century their own liberal scholars undermined the authority of the Bible. Now they have nothing left but their own opinions."
As a former Anglican, Fr. Longenecker's interest in the conference and outcome, is evident. There are some additional postings that might be of interest, at his blog:
Standing On My Head .
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posted on
07/08/2008 7:42:11 AM PDT
by
NYer
("Ignorance of scripture is ignorance of Christ." - St. Jerome)
To: servantboy777
Really, seems like they are answering only to themselves.
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posted on
07/08/2008 7:45:46 AM PDT
by
Jaded
("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
To: servantboy777
And misinformed selves at that. They have no used for Jesus Christ or the Bible.
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posted on
07/08/2008 7:48:46 AM PDT
by
Jaded
("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
To: NYer
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posted on
07/08/2008 7:58:53 AM PDT
by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: Rippin
Yep, real women want nothing to do with this politically correct nonsense.
Once you let "social justice" into the church, God goes out the door. Because these people elevate liberal political causes ABOVE God Himself.
No faithful woman OR man wants to be a party to that.
I predict we will be seeing a number of high-church Anglicans swimming the Tiber . . . and their corresponding evangelical/low-church Anglicans heading for the new African church.
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posted on
07/08/2008 8:03:29 AM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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