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Violence in Early Mormonism - Was It All Unjust Persecution?
MRM ^ | Bill McKeever

Posted on 07/07/2008 3:34:44 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: Old Mountain man

Hmmm, I seem to recall you claiming you didn’t remember naming Billy Graham using his last name when you insulted his character. Then I cited your specific posts where you did just that, and now you want to play this game. My, my, my, can we put together a plate of leftovers for your from the covered dish supper at the up coming meeting? Must be getting hungry skulking around out there in lalaland.


181 posted on 07/09/2008 3:36:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Old Mountain man; Zakeet; Godzilla; Elsie; MHGinTN
We do not put satanic symbols on our Temples.

Why did Billy say what he said?

I don't know. He certainly shouldn't have done it, and he apologized and confessed his sin.

I have said and done things in my life that I regret. We all have a sin nature - and that is why Christ had to die for us. All of us have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God (Romans 3:23).

It is only through Christ's sacrifice on the cross that we can overcome our shorfallings and be worthy to God.

Don't you agree?

182 posted on 07/09/2008 3:38:41 PM PDT by SkyPilot ("I wasn't in church during the time when the statements were made.")
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To: SkyPilot
shaved his Beagle puppy too.

Ohhh...Nooooo...not the PUPPY! How COULD THEY?

183 posted on 07/09/2008 3:44:03 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: Old Mountain man

What is the true church?


184 posted on 07/09/2008 3:47:48 PM PDT by Osage Orange (DO NOT POST TO ME AGAIN...!!!)
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To: SkyPilot

Usually it’s by the first initial of the last name but I guess here we have to use screen names.

I make a mean carrot cake. I could bring that.


185 posted on 07/09/2008 3:56:23 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Elsie

Oh mY! Makes one wonder if Bryan David Mitchell, the kidnapper of little Elizabeth Smart, and Porter Rockwell were related, doesn’t it?


186 posted on 07/09/2008 3:57:14 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: SkyPilot
Rev. Graham apologized and confessed to that sin.

That's the nice thing about Christianity, the forgiveness part. We don't have to be perfect, or do all that we can before God accepts and forgives us, because nobody would make it.

Nobody can either be perfect or even the best they can. We all blow it and can always do better.Salvation is sure; it does not leave you hanging, wondering if you made it and finding out too late that you you didn't.

187 posted on 07/09/2008 4:00:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SkyPilot
heard it was 'Pot Luck' next Thursday, but I can't decide whether to bring rolls, a side dish, or dessert?
What are you bringing?

Funeral potatoes, a good old mormon dish...

AFTER the rope is employed, of course.....

188 posted on 07/09/2008 4:01:03 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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To: MHGinTN

My my are you denying history? See The Haldeman Diaries and listen to it on The Nixon Tapes February 1, 1972.

Any more personal insults? Then go to your own “la la land”.


189 posted on 07/09/2008 4:09:31 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Official FR PITA)
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To: Old Mountain man

Naw, going out to cut the grass. Need mulch?


190 posted on 07/09/2008 4:11:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Got plenty this year.


191 posted on 07/09/2008 4:19:21 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Official FR PITA)
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To: Old Mountain man

Just cut the back this evening. Front tomorrow. Muscadyne vines are trying to take over my walnut trees! Had to clip and clip and clip, to cut off the supply lines. When they brown out I’ll pull those suckers down out of the trees. Blackberries are coming in. Had a tasty bite while I snipped. Friendly Mockingbird wanted in on the action. He fluttered so close I could feel the wind off of his wings! All the babies are gone from nests now, so it had to just be curiosity.


192 posted on 07/09/2008 5:22:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I used to love the walnut tree when I had the farm. Never a shortage of birds or deer on the place. Wildflowers and honeybees. I really miss that life.


193 posted on 07/09/2008 5:38:49 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Official FR PITA)
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To: Old Mountain man

I’ve got shoots coming up all along the driveway where I’ve run over walnuts and they sprouted. Can I dig out a couple and send them to you at your neighborhood nursery? I’m saving a few to transplant wherever I move to this fall. Couple of Maples, too. These trees have connnection back to the settlers of this valley, my relatives. I’m leaving soon and there won’t be any going back to it.


194 posted on 07/09/2008 5:44:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Old Mountain man

Most folks don’t realize how fast Black Walnut trees grow! I started this house in 1992 and had a small sapling toward the back at the end of where I was extending the porch to. Now, that sapling is taller than the second story, trunk is nearly a foot in diameter and six more are coming up around the place, one as a sapling from that earlier sapling! It’s like gun fire in the fall, when the big heavy walnuts fall on the roof! Can’t park under the big double beside the drive because it can break car windows. That double tree is over forty feet tall and both trunks are over two feet in diameter. I named the new subdivision ‘Walnut Hill’ for that old double tree.


195 posted on 07/09/2008 5:48:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I am sorry that you are having to leave such a beautiful place. I do not have the room for them in this silly city place where I live now, but I thank you for the offer. I hope your new place will cause them to grow tall and straight.


196 posted on 07/09/2008 6:52:25 PM PDT by Old Mountain man (Official FR PITA)
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To: SkyPilot; ejonesie22; greyfoxx39; MHGinTN; metmom; Elsie

“What are you bringing?”

I’ll bring the fishfry. A 20 lb stingray decided join the festivities, so there’s plenty for all.

(Saltwater rocks!)


197 posted on 07/09/2008 8:17:35 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Enosh

Yes it does. Grilled Stingray fin with Garlic butter...


198 posted on 07/09/2008 9:00:37 PM PDT by ejonesie22 (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery.)
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To: SkyPilot
Cute kitty.

But seriously only someone afflicted with Mormon Derangement Syndrome would joke at infanticide. The Lord takes a much more serious, less jovial view of the matter. No matter the particular denomination of the infants parent, IMO.

Your view of the matter reads more like a Michael Moore propoganda video. Only someone with MDS would treat the historical account as you have. As you have the details of the incident wrong. One of the mob members was a Doctor and has written a very interesting/objective account of the matter. They were going to mutilate Joseph Smith more and so they brought the Doctor along who couldn't go through with it. Your rewriting of some of the events doesn't even square with the mob's own account of the incident. At least someone in the mob had a conscious about the matter which you so quikly brush aside.

Joseph Smith's infant was legally adopted. Do you have a child? infant? Go ahead, expose your baby to the winter cold for many hours (not minutes as you made up) and when your infant dies the next day perhaps we can find some heartless person to say its all just a con game to gain sympathy. Legally the mob members could be charged with murder. If a man robs a bank and in the process of the crime someone is accidentally killed, (even if killed by the security guard by accident, who was trying to stop the roobbery) they can be charged with murder. You can look up the statutes. The mob murdered his infant son.

Luke 17: 2 It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

199 posted on 07/10/2008 1:34:38 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Old Mountain man

Of course anti mormons fail to mention that Mormon printing presses had been smashed many times before the one time Mormons did it. And the anti-Mormons beat and tarred and feathered the printers and shot at little girls who ran away and hid in a cornfield.


200 posted on 07/10/2008 1:37:37 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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