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To: MarkBsnr
[***That sure upset you!*** [

It amused me to see a self declared Christian spouting such gibberish.

No, just stating the facts, hell or heaven, true Gospel (sola fide) vs the false Gospel, (faith plus works), you choose your own eternal destination.

[ ***Exactly what it was suppose to do and that is why Christ preached more on Hell than He did on Heaven.***]

Prove it. My Scripture indicates that Jesus spent the most time on teaching how people were to behave, how to come to God and eternal salvation.

Actually, He preached more on the subject of hell than He did on the subject of Heaven.

[ ***I didn’t say you had to go to hell, only that you were if you continued to put your trust in a false Gospel, faith plus works.*** ]

You passed an arrogant Judgement on me. Very un Christian.

No, you passed judgement on yourself by stating you rejected the true Gospel.

I only told you what that judgement was going to be, which is exactly what a Christian is suppose to do.

6,415 posted on 06/17/2008 7:06:39 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Sola Christus)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Even though Trent condemned anyone who stated they could be sure they were predestinated, there is a way for Catholics to be confident that they are!

Sure Sign of Predestination

Pope Pius X said: "If you want peace in your heart, in your home, in your country, assemble together every night and say the ROSARY. Many complain that it is tiring repetition – that they cannot meditate on the mysteries. Our Blessed Mother gave this advice to St. Dominic: "This is why, before doing anything else, priests should try to kindle a love of prayer in people’s hearts and especially a love of my rosary. If only they would all start saying it and persevere, God, in His mercy, could hardly refuse to give them His grace. So I want you to preach My Rosary!"

St. Louis de Montfort said: "I beg of you to beware of thinking of the Rosary as something of little importance – as do ignorant people and even several great but proud scholars. Far from being insignificant, the Rosary is a priceless treasure which is inspired by God." He also tells us: "For never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic or be led astray by the devil."

St. Dominic prayed to Our Lady that she would force the devils, who possessed a man, to reveal the truth about devotion to her. The devils were forced by Our Lady to reveal: "Now that we are forced to speak we must also tell you this: Nobody who perseveres in saying the Rosary will be damned, because she obtains for her servants the grace of true contrition for their sins and by means of this they obtain God’s forgiveness and mercy."

St. Teresa of Avila tells us how priceless a treasure it is by showing the value and merits of a single HAIL MARY. Shortly after her death, she appeared to one of the sisters of her community and told her that she was willing to return to a life of suffering until the end of time to merit the degree of glory which God rewards one devoutly recited Hail Mary.

What a wonderful consolation to know that we can be assured of salvation by giving just fifteen minutes a day to praying the Rosary. (emphasis added)

http://www.catholicfirst.com/thefaith/prayers/holyrosary.cfm#Praying%20the%20Rosary

6,425 posted on 06/17/2008 7:31:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Sola Christus)
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To: fortheDeclaration

***No, just stating the facts, hell or heaven, true Gospel (sola fide) vs the false Gospel, (faith plus works), you choose your own eternal destination. ***

Your Scripture differs significantly from mine. James 2, as well as the multiple verses I gave you from Paul condemns sola fide. Them’s the facts. My faith is the faith of the early Church. Yours came from whence?

***Prove it. My Scripture indicates that Jesus spent the most time on teaching how people were to behave, how to come to God and eternal salvation.

Actually, He preached more on the subject of hell than He did on the subject of Heaven. ***

Ah yes, the wrathful, jealous and sullen god that it was the pleasure of the Reformation to create. Repeat it all you like, it’s untrue.

***No, you passed judgement on yourself by stating you rejected the true Gospel. ***

Head on back and reread your posts. 1 Cor 13:
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So faith, hope, love remain, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Let’s see. Which do you demonstrate here?


6,443 posted on 06/17/2008 8:43:13 AM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Exactly. But since they don’t believe in sola fide, you can’t help but wonder if they understand what salvation really entails.


6,562 posted on 06/17/2008 3:07:56 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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