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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Even though Trent condemned anyone who stated they could be sure they were predestinated, there is a way for Catholics to be confident that they are!

Sure Sign of Predestination

Pope Pius X said: "If you want peace in your heart, in your home, in your country, assemble together every night and say the ROSARY. Many complain that it is tiring repetition – that they cannot meditate on the mysteries. Our Blessed Mother gave this advice to St. Dominic: "This is why, before doing anything else, priests should try to kindle a love of prayer in people’s hearts and especially a love of my rosary. If only they would all start saying it and persevere, God, in His mercy, could hardly refuse to give them His grace. So I want you to preach My Rosary!"

St. Louis de Montfort said: "I beg of you to beware of thinking of the Rosary as something of little importance – as do ignorant people and even several great but proud scholars. Far from being insignificant, the Rosary is a priceless treasure which is inspired by God." He also tells us: "For never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic or be led astray by the devil."

St. Dominic prayed to Our Lady that she would force the devils, who possessed a man, to reveal the truth about devotion to her. The devils were forced by Our Lady to reveal: "Now that we are forced to speak we must also tell you this: Nobody who perseveres in saying the Rosary will be damned, because she obtains for her servants the grace of true contrition for their sins and by means of this they obtain God’s forgiveness and mercy."

St. Teresa of Avila tells us how priceless a treasure it is by showing the value and merits of a single HAIL MARY. Shortly after her death, she appeared to one of the sisters of her community and told her that she was willing to return to a life of suffering until the end of time to merit the degree of glory which God rewards one devoutly recited Hail Mary.

What a wonderful consolation to know that we can be assured of salvation by giving just fifteen minutes a day to praying the Rosary. (emphasis added)

http://www.catholicfirst.com/thefaith/prayers/holyrosary.cfm#Praying%20the%20Rosary

6,425 posted on 06/17/2008 7:31:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Sola Scriptura, Sola Fide, Sola Gratia, Sola Christus)
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To: fortheDeclaration; 1000 silverlings; Quix; Marysecretary; DungeonMaster; OLD REGGIE; wmfights; ...
"For never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic or be led astray by the devil..."

"Nobody who perseveres in saying the Rosary will be damned, because she obtains for her servants the grace of true contrition for their sins and by means of this they obtain God's forgiveness and mercy..."

"What a wonderful consolation to know that we can be assured of salvation by giving just fifteen minutes a day to praying the Rosary..."

LOL. What great examples you've uncovered of the RCC's complete misdirection and further denial of the Gospel. Catholics are being told they can have a confident "assurance" of their salvation by the faithful recitation of the Rosary, but NOT by possessing faith in Jesus Christ! As Trent says, all who believe they have an assurance of their salvation by the evidence of faith in Christ are anathematized!

Absolutely amazing! I learn something new here every day.

Thankfully, as Scripture reminds us...

"For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." -- Matthew 6:21

The heart cannot be divided. We love one or the other. We love either Mary above all else, or we love Christ above all else.

Either Mary saves or Christ saves.

Either chanting the repetitions of the rosary brings salvation, or God's grace through faith in Christ brings salvation.

Either we are confident in Mary's intercession or we are confident in Christ's intercession.

Either we are assured of forgiveness because Mary suffered for us or we are assured of forgiveness because Christ suffered for us.

Either Mary protects us from the devil or Christ protects us from the devil.

Either Mary obtains God's grace for us or Christ obtains God's grace for us.

Either "15 minutes a day" of work on our part earns us God's mercy, or Christ's work on the cross is freely imputed to us according to God's mercy alone.

Who can read Scripture and not come down on the side of God's grace alone through faith alone in Jesus Christ alone?

"Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." -- Acts 4:10-12

How much clearer could it be?

6,435 posted on 06/17/2008 8:30:46 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: fortheDeclaration

None of that is predestination.


6,442 posted on 06/17/2008 8:42:33 AM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: fortheDeclaration; Dr. Eckleburg
St. Dominic prayed to Our Lady that she would force the devils, who possessed a man, to reveal the truth about devotion to her. The devils were forced by Our Lady to reveal: "Now that we are forced to speak we must also tell you this: Nobody who perseveres in saying the Rosary will be damned, because she obtains for her servants the grace of true contrition for their sins and by means of this they obtain God’s forgiveness and mercy."

Isn't he the one who led the Inquisition?

6,464 posted on 06/17/2008 9:19:13 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Whoa. Heresy, heresy, heresy...leading good people to hell with it, too.


6,564 posted on 06/17/2008 3:11:03 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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