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To: sandyeggo; OLD REGGIE; Quix; 1000 silverlings; DungeonMaster
968 Her (Mary's) role in relation to the Church and to all humanity goes still further. "In a wholly singular way she cooperated by her obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior's work of restoring supernatural life to souls. For this reason she is a mother to us in the order of grace."511

May God forgive those who believe this lie. Mary did not "cooperate" in Christ's "work of restoring supernatural life to souls."

But we see now where the concept of "co-redeemer" comes from -- directly from the RCC catechism.

3,009 posted on 06/05/2008 9:23:03 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“Mary did not ‘cooperate’ in Christ’s “work of restoring supernatural life to souls.’”

Perhaps now I’ll receive a reply if I repeat my thought experiment, then:

If the Blessed Virgin had asked Christ to come down from the Cross, and make atonement, say, by shedding a single drop of His infinitely precious blood, would or would not Christ, as a perfect observer of the Law, have been obliged in filial piety to do so?


3,013 posted on 06/05/2008 9:29:21 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
May God forgive those who believe this lie. Mary did not "cooperate" in Christ's "work of restoring supernatural life to souls."

Catholics will just switch definitions of cooperate with you in order to not really face the challenge that is set before them. The new Catholic definition of "cooperate" will be "didn't fight hard enough against for it not to happen", and everything will be in harmony. It's easy to always win a debate when you switch off on definitions to dodge every challenge. Darwinists are experts on this tactic.

3,063 posted on 06/05/2008 11:17:25 PM PDT by dan1123 (If you want to find a person's true religion, ask them what makes them a "good person".)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

But we see now where the concept of “co-redeemer” comes from — directly from the RCC catechism.

= = =

That’s one of the last stops in it’s root. As I understand it, the journey begins in a rather warm, dark throne-room.


3,092 posted on 06/06/2008 4:02:37 AM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thanks, I added that one to my heresy file.


3,176 posted on 06/06/2008 6:21:24 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Obamafeld, "A CAMPAIGN ABOUT NOTHING".)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
>>But we see now where the concept of "co-redeemer" comes from -- directly from the RCC catechism. <<

Where? That quote says, "obedience, faith, hope, and burning charity in the Savior's work of restoring supernatural life to souls."

Hmmmm, the Savior's work is not hers. Silly, silly, silly.

3,183 posted on 06/06/2008 6:28:24 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Iron Mom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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