[Marysecretary]

I hope you do get it! Your church has been selling you a bill of goods on what a saint really is and whose prayers are being kept in those vials. YOUR prayers and MINE are there.

[raygun]

That's a most excellent exhortation!

If I understand correctly [RCC 1667-1679] suggest that each of the following are sacred "signs", are to be considered to be sacramental, and have the intent of bringing spiritual dimension to the events of everyday life [RCC 1667-1668, 1670]. I will cite some of the better known sacramentals

• stations of the cross
• crucifixes
• spapulars
• miraculaous medals
• genufleting
• lighting candles
• statues
• images
• signs holy oil water ashes bells holy days psalms blessing car, throats, etc. excorcism RCC 1667 suggests that its all good though. I'm talin' 'bout sacramnts. The Roman Catholic sacrament bestows

  • reception of actual grace
  • material blessings
  • increased love of God
  • sorrow for sin
  • attonemnent for temporal punishment due
  • venial sin forgiveness
  • protection from Satan

[Antoninus]

Your church has been selling you a bill of goods on what a saint really is and whose prayers are being kept in those vials. YOUR prayers and MINE are there.

Sorry, but when the teachings of the Church are backed up with 2,000 years of history, tradition, and Apostolic succession, I tend to believe it, not follow some johnny-come-lately sect with a fancy new spin on what Jesus really meant.

The idea that Christians finally got things right 1,600 years after the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus is simply ludicrous. I guess the Catholics and Orthodox who have been asking the saints to intercede for us for over 1,900 years have just been making God really angry for all that time, eh?