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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: John Leland 1789
The disciples of Jesus Christ who were used by the Holy Spirit to pen Scripure, never used either the word or the concept of “Catholic.”

The name came later; but they were Catholic nonetheless.

9,601 posted on 06/27/2008 8:44:19 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Amen, Dr. E. Thanks. No matter what you say to some here, they don’t believe it. Christ died once and for all for our sins. When we sin, we confess our sins through our ONLY mediator, Jesus Christ. He then cleanses us from all unrighteousness. What part of this don’t these folk understand?


9,602 posted on 06/27/2008 8:45:16 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
"...Jesus was giving respect and equality to women ( ie, he was the first Femminist!) in a society that treated them like chattel or slaves...."

Greetings, and happy to be plagiarized! (Click on my profile, please)

9,603 posted on 06/27/2008 8:45:31 PM PDT by oprahstheantichrist (The MSM is a demonic stronghold; please pray accordingly. 2 Cor. 10:3-5)
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To: John Leland 1789
And, I have never seen five verses of Scripture put in a row that could build the concept of “Catholic” in the sense of something visible on this earth today.

Your dysopia does not detract from the truth of this matter.

9,604 posted on 06/27/2008 8:45:46 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

And Protestantism hasn’t developed traditions?


9,605 posted on 06/27/2008 8:46:03 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: John Leland 1789
Scriptures didn’t come from a particular earthly church, but “holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.” (2 Peter 1:21) Individual holy men were selected by the Holy Ghost.

There have been innumerable holy men writing about holiness. What separates such advice from Scripture is the authoritative endorsement of the Church.

9,606 posted on 06/27/2008 8:46:31 PM PDT by papertyger (Gun control laws make as much sense as giving condoms to a pregnant teen.)
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To: Marysecretary
What part of this don’t these folk understand?

The protestant desire to believe made-up stuff.

9,607 posted on 06/27/2008 8:46:59 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: John Leland 1789

what about the ‘laying on of hands” and the snake handlers?


9,608 posted on 06/27/2008 8:49:38 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: Quix

Wasn’t that something? What blasphemy.


9,609 posted on 06/27/2008 8:49:48 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I think you mean stiff-necked anti-papist snake handlers.


9,610 posted on 06/27/2008 8:50:21 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: enat
My study has nothing to do with an “aversion to the Papacy”, in fact the “Papacy” does not bother me. What I do care about is an accurate exegesis of the scriptures within their historical context.

So what prompted you to undertake such a study in the first place? Further, what are your qualifications to undertake such a study?

9,611 posted on 06/27/2008 8:50:58 PM PDT by papertyger (Gun control laws make as much sense as giving condoms to a pregnant teen.)
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To: oprahstheantichrist

whoa! great. how few people get that.ha.


9,612 posted on 06/27/2008 8:52:05 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: Petronski

LOL!! thanks for the correction.


9,613 posted on 06/27/2008 8:53:07 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WE NEED A TROOP SURGE IN CHICAGO !)
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To: Petronski

I didn’t.


9,614 posted on 06/27/2008 8:54:06 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: papertyger


Boss...Boss!

9,615 posted on 06/27/2008 8:54:30 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Marysecretary

You didn’t stop?


9,616 posted on 06/27/2008 8:55:06 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski

Nope. It’s my only form of exercise...


9,617 posted on 06/27/2008 8:57:30 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

Your attempt at sarcasm indicates my point is made.


9,618 posted on 06/27/2008 8:59:25 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski
“My interpretation has the benefit of 1970+ years of Catholic scholarship and inspiration of the Holy Spirit?”

You are not really that old are you? Why you would be close to Carl Reiner and Mel Brooks 2000 year old man. However, your interpretation was in a state of flux until Boniface III “Unam Sanctum” (1302) and made final in the Catholic Church in Vatican I, “The First Dogmatic Constitution of the Church of Christ” (1870). Cyprian in the 3rd century started to interpret the passage according to the Catholic Church's interpretation, but later withdrew his work during a prolonged argument with Pope Stephen.

One has to remember that during the time between the 6th to the 16th century the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church were the only interpretive games in town.

9,619 posted on 06/27/2008 9:00:17 PM PDT by enat
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To: Petronski

Not sarcasm, Petronski, it was a JOKE. Which of course is lost on you.


9,620 posted on 06/27/2008 9:00:21 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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