The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[Quix]

Either the Church that Jesus Christ created is the pillar of truth or else everything in the Bible is a lie. There is no third option

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WRONG, Christ did NOT create the RC org/edifice/club.

Militarily supported political power-mongers meeting in committee did 400 years or so later.

That’s just the historical facts.

[Quix]

Actually, I think you are quite right about that.

However, the globalists are

MOST FIERCELY HOSTILE TO

EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS

AND OF THOSE

MOST EXTRA FIERCELY HOSTILE TO PENTECOSTALS, CHARISMATICS AND ALL WHO BELIEVE IN AND TEACH ABOUT THE 2ND COMING OF JESUS CHRIST.

There’s a message in those facts.

[Quix]

INDEED.

[Quix]

YOUR POINTS ARE VALID AND WELL MADE.

And, perhaps worth relentlessly emphasizing.

As for me, I’m quite willing to forgive and go on. None of us is righteous, no not one.

Christ forgave the prostitute. I forgive all involved in this hideousness. God will sort out the retribution quite perfectly.

[papertyger]

I don’t recall “outrage” being one of the fruits of the Spirit.

Frankly, it has been my experience that such things are what people use to fill in the hole when God is ignoring them.

[Quix]

UTTER HOGWASH.

[Quix]

MORE UTTER HOGWASH.

[Forest Keeper]

Who are the dead/sleep in Christ that Paul mention if not all of the saints who have gone on before, including, I expect Mary? 1Th 4:15-18, ......

Thanks, Enat. I'm always enraptured by that passage. :)

[Quix]

HOW COMFORTING

More points again courtesy of the ever faithful personal assault.

Thanks.

[Quix]

MORE UNMITIGATED HOGWASH.

[Quix]

Sounds like the famous RC org

PROJECTION BUNNY is as fully energized as ever.

[Quix]

Glad to hear it.

Prayers.

[Quix]

I think you make a valid point well.

However, in all RELIGIOUS ORGS . . .

some of the extremely flawed jerks end up deciding dogma, doctrine, etc.

[Quix]

Again . . .

I think you make many excellent points in a grand fashion almost bringing me to tears.

Thanks much.

[papertyger]

HOW COMFORTING More points again courtesy of the ever faithful personal assault. Thanks.

Doesn't a "personal assault" have to be directed at an actual "person?"

If your sensibilities that delicate, perhaps you should avoid open threads.

[wagglebee]

I don’t disagree with you. I just think that Evangelical Christians and Catholics need to recognize that, despite our differences, there are a great many issues where we are in full agreement and these make us a combined target for the evil left.

The left really doesn’t care about what role tradition plays, or what we feel about the Pope, or the Virgin Mary, or the Eucharist. As far as the left is concerned ALL of us who believe that Jesus Christ is Lord, that He will come again and that we must obey His Law, are religious “extremists” and that we are standing in the way of their leftist utopia.

[Mad Dawg]

No, not unusual harsh orneriness on my part. (Just normal everyday harsh orneriness)

Return with me to the golden days of yesteryear when a patient, as Freud relates somewhere, tried to give him a hug after a session. He says he rebuked her and then he thought about it. As I in my autodidactic ignorance think, that's when he developed the notion of transference.

So when you said you wanted to give the RM a bear hug, the primary processes kicked in and that incident came to my alleged mind. And because you are a professional, I thought you would be (a) amused and (b) stimulated to thought about the wonder of cyber-communications (and the images we impose on our correspondents), feelings about authority figures, and all like that there.

That's pretty much it.

[Mad Dawg]

HOW, CAN ANY earnest Christian read the following without wanting to rend their clothes, sit in sackcloth and ashes and wail in grief at the blasphemous idolatry so brazenly evident? The GREEN OR RED words and phrases particularly ought to trigger such a feeling:

Well the red-green colorblind earnest Christians manage to stay calm. At least this one does.

I was prepared to read deMonfort by my time among the P/protestants. Surrounded by people telling me that "prayer works", which, on its face, is a superstitious, magical, idolatrous, blasphemous, and/or works-righteousness-ish notion of prayer, I learned to look past the unfortunate turns of phrase to the often lovely enthusiasm which lay behind it.

So it is with deMonfort. When I read him, my first reaction is that he sets my teeth on edge. But then I try again with good will and I find him fun and encouraging. I would not call him a deep thinker. I've already offered the analogy of high school cheer leader. No football player of any sense really believes "If HE can't do it, no one can!" But it's fun to hear.

[Petronski]

Christ did NOT create the RC org/edifice/club.

Correct. He founded the Catholic Church.

[OLD REGGIE]

Doctrine does not require Scriptural support.

And there you have it! In fact, you can write your own history if necessary.