The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[Petronski]

It actually says "God willed that Mary should be intimately associated with His Son in bearing the burden of all sin;..."

You claimed it says "There it is. Mary "bears the burden of all sin." Blasphemy and lies."

Now everyone can see the difference.

[papertyger]

But, of course, He did tell all those that recorded the books that make up the scriptures to indeed write them down—by His Spirit.

Thus proving you have to go outside of Scripture for direction and simultaniously disproving sola scriptura.

[OLD REGGIE]

No Mary, I don't believe any of that for a minute. Even as an Evangelical I never subjected Catholics to the type of supercilious,doctrinaire, accusations your side practices as a matter of course.

Don't you wonder why your side doesn't have an equivalent term to sado-evangelist?

It's because you practice it, and we don't.

I'm impressed with the tone of loving kindness displayed here.

How about "Haughty Hate"?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

the language makes it quite clear: "Mary" is not the same as "Mary's Immaculate Heart." You can see that, right?

No, any sane person grounded in Scripture would not "see that" in the slightest.

"Consecrated to Mary" is the exact same things as "consecrated to Mary's immaculate heart."

However the RCC finagles these words into a terrible blasphemy as it steals the glory of Christ and allots it to His mother is a lie all Christians should rebute.

Certainly God is not fooled by these idiotic word games.

"Flee from idalotry." -- 1 Corinthians 10:14

[mgist]

Today's Gospel Mt 5:38-42

Jesus said to his disciples: “You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. But I say to you, offer no resistance to one who is evil. When someone strikes you on your right cheek, turn the other one to him as well. If anyone wants to go to law with you over your tunic, hand him your cloak as well. Should anyone press you into service for one mile, go with him for two miles. Give to the one who asks of you, and do not turn your back on one who wants to borrow.”

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Mary should be intimately associated with His Son in bearing the burden of all sin;.

It doesn't say Mary is associated with Christ's bearing of the burden of all sin. It says Mary is associated herself with the act of bearing the burden of all sin with her Son.

Do you really think God doesn't see how the RCC mocks Jesus Christ in this idolatrous tandem redemption?

[Petronski]

"Consecrated to Mary" is the exact same things as "consecrated to Mary's immaculate heart."

Uh, no. Sorry.

Then you truncate Scripture again:

"Flee from idalotry." -- 1 Corinthians 10:14

1Co 10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, fly from the service of idols.

Mary is not an idol.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Don't you wonder why your side doesn't have an equivalent term to sado-evangelist?

Ah, that's an easy one. It is because Protestants on this forum really try to abide by the rules and not make this personal.

Your use of the term "sado-evangelist" when speaking to an individual is contrary to the rules of FR.

Further, your obvious pride in that terms speaks volumes.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

What is the difference between being “consecrated to Mary” and “consecrated to Mary’s heart,” immaculate or otherwise?

[TASMANIANRED]

The ones that didn’t believe walked away.

The ones that did stayed and became the foundation of Christ’s church.

[tiki]

No Mary, I don’t believe any of that for a minute. Even as an Evangelical I never subjected Catholics to the type of supercilious,doctrinaire, accusations your side practices as a matter of course.”

Me either, I had my questions and I had been taught the same silliness that these people hold onto like it was Scripture itself.

I asked my questions respectfully of people I respected and if they didn’t have the answer, they asked someone who knew or we found out together.

I remember one time when my friends were Catechizing me a woman came to our prayer meeting, she wouldn’t come back because we were too intellectual.

[Petronski]

Here you misinterpret it: It doesn't say Mary is associated with Christ's bearing of the burden of all sin.

And here you add words to distort it to your meaning: It says Mary is associated herself with the act of bearing the burden of all sin with her Son.

Do you really think God doesn't see how the RCC mocks Jesus Christ in this idolatrous tandem redemption?

This IS God's Church. God the Son founded it and God the Holy Spirit guides it. I sincerely doubt He is impressed with your misinterpretations.

[MarkBsnr]

Jesus taught entirely orally and that is how the early Church taught.

[Petronski]

Perhaps someone will come along to explain it to you. I could give you links if you want. As for me dancing to your tune? Uh, no. Not now.

Matthew 7:6

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Mary is not an idol.

AMEN!

Therefore I urge all my Catholic brothers and sisters to stop praying to Mary, venerating Mary, believing Mary is an intercessor between God and men, believing Mary is a "co-redeemer," kneeling to Mary, building wooden statues of Mary to fall down to, and thinking that they are in any way consecrated by or to or through Mary who most definitely does not shoulder the burden of our sins and who was a fallen, fallible creature like the rest of us, saved by grace alone.

"Flee from idolatry." -- 1 Corinthians 10:14

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Does Mary in any way bear (or co-bear) the burden for your sins?

[Petronski]

There is no idolatry in any of that. A lot of that is not even Catholic teaching.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Jesus taught entirely orally and that is how the early Church taught.

lol. Read the Scriptures, Mark. Christ said repeatedly...

"What saith the Scriptures?

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Would that were true.

[MarkBsnr]

***Jesus Himself lived a sola scriptura life—or show where He departed from scripture by keeping instead to the traditions of men.***

What Scripture are you referring to here?