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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)
Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
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To: Petronski
“Do you not think He departed from the Old Testament?”
You seem to have misread me (by quite a bit.) I inferred, suggested no such thing. Let me restate: Jesus did not come to do away with the law but to fulfill the law. Christ came to give understanding to what was at the heart of the law. He did not abolish it. He magnified it, brought it to life (poor phrasing). Let me ask you, do you think that He said or did anything that departed from the Old Testament? If so, what was it? If not, if nothing can be found to show that He did opt for something other than scripture to live His divine life by, then we can conclude that Christ Himself was sola scriptura.
You are the one that said that sola scriptura was biblically inaccurate. I have suggested that the life of Christ reveals your statement to be false. I see you did not cite an instance where He departed from scripture in deference to the traditions of men, but have instead chosen to speak for whatever reason of the importance of Christ’s church. I am speaking of the person of Christ.
To: papertyger
“...supercilious, doctrinare, accusations...”
Yes—and let me add: presumptions about the state of another’s soul.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:25:23 PM PDT
by
Running On Empty
((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
To: John Leland 1789
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:25:40 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: MarkBsnr
It was some time ago. I wish that FR had an in-post search function.
Ill see what Google can come up with.
Some time ago and you still bear the cross of agony. Get over it.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:26:13 PM PDT
by
OLD REGGIE
(I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know no thing.)
To: MarDav
Me, then:
Do you not think He departed from the Old Testament?You, now: You seem to have misread me (by quite a bit.) I inferred, suggested no such thing.
You, then: ...or show where He departed from scripture by keeping instead to the traditions of men.
Hmmm.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:28:27 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: Petronski
Does a Catholic protesting at the Republican National Convention make him/her a Protestant?
To: MarDav
I see you did not cite an instance where He departed from scripture in deference to the traditions of men, but have instead chosen to speak for whatever reason of the importance of Christs church. I am speaking of the person of Christ.Here, again, is my reply:
Scripture at that time was the Old Testament. Do you not think He departed from the Old Testament?
And what did He do in His life? Did He write, or did He teach orally?
As for sola scriptura, did Christ come to establish a church that could not function for 1500 years (until the printing press)?
Please.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:30:48 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: OLD REGGIE; MarkBsnr
I would say that it’s not a case of “bearing the cross of agony”, which is a demeaning comment.
I have also been told the same thing by the same poster. It is a matter of having that type of post corrected, as it should be.
I would expect that the repeated manner of posting in which the poster tells others they are going to hell is a matter for correction within the forum guidelines—for the sake of the integrity of the forum. Calling it to attention doesn’t merit a snide evaluation.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:33:20 PM PDT
by
Running On Empty
((The three sorriest words:"It's too late"))
To: 1000 silverlings; Quix
Nothing surprises me anymore. by the way, quix is the barbarian, I am the heathen, you can be either the apostate or the heretic.I'd rather be the winsome dancing girl with an immaculate heart of gold.
Or a stewardess.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:33:45 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Petronski
What is the term for someone who protests the Protestants?
To: Augustinian monk
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:34:21 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: John Leland 1789
If they’re protesting the Catholic Church, yeah, I’d say so.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:35:13 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: John Leland 1789
What is the term for someone who protests the Protestants?Biblically well-educated.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:35:55 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: 1000 silverlings; Marysecretary; Quix
You can be our beloved infidel, hows that?Oooh, that's a good one. I'd take that if I were you, Mary. You can always trade up for something at a later date. To a flirty Pharisee, perhaps.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:36:49 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: MarDav
âDid Jesus live by the traditions of men or âby every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God?âNow, prove every "Word" was written in the Bible.
Jesus Himself lived a sola scriptura life.
Then why didn't he tell anyone beside John to write anything down? Don't you think if it was that important He would have told us to follow the book that would be written?
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:37:05 PM PDT
by
papertyger
(What Would Jesus Do? ... Remember "freak out and turn over tables," is a valid option ;o)
To: DungeonMaster
Catholics are not burdened by the false teaching known as sola scriptura.LOL. Perfect.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:38:16 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
LOL. Perfect. You find slander very funny. "Perfect," in fact.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:40:38 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: John Leland 1789
And the subject of "tradition," when treated by our Saviour during His earthly ministry, does not fare so well.So where's His command to ammend the Scriptures and make them the highest authority.
If it were that important, don't you think we'd have been given unambiguous instructions?
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:41:59 PM PDT
by
papertyger
(What Would Jesus Do? ... Remember "freak out and turn over tables," is a valid option ;o)
To: Petronski; 1000 silverlings; Quix; Augustinian monk; Marysecretary; DungeonMaster
DR.E: We are "consecrated to Mary?!?"PETRONSKI: Nope. Doesn't say that.
Of course it does, in black and white.
Perhaps you didn't read the excerpt which says exactly that.
Our very consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary calls upon us to make reparation for the offenses that we and others have committed against her.
Are you consecrated to Mary, Petronski?
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:43:51 PM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
To: fortheDeclaration
You can call Christ a liar if you wish, if that is your personal interpretation, but you do it at your own peril.
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posted on
06/16/2008 1:45:45 PM PDT
by
TASMANIANRED
(TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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