The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

[Petronski]

Thank you for further correcting the record.

Refuting anti-Catholic lies is a round-the-clock operation around here.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

I doubt very much those would be Pope Benedict's words. He is a Holy man, illuminated by the Holy spirit. He would never call another Chrisitan "defective". It is your decision to listen to him or not, but for you to quote him like that is SLANDEROUS, and a little creepy.

Apparently you missed Ratzinger's pronouncement last year.

lol. A lot of us didn't.

Ping to post #3,776 and the "defective" words straight from the horse's mouth.

I agree with you, however. Ratzinger's words were mighty "creepy."

[wagglebee]

For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again.

[Petronski]

Post 3776 does not include any words from Pope Benedict calling any Christians defective.

[Running On Empty]

True—the Pope didn’t call any particular person “defective”.

If he referred to a community of believers, then I see the same and worse has been said by other Confessions regarding the Catholic Church.

In other Confessions, Catholicism (read practicing Catholics) is considered not merely defective, but blasphemous and satanic and —well, all those other more-than-hyperbole descriptions by other Confessions. Would that it had only described us as merely “defective”!

[trisham]

Refuting anti-Catholic lies is a round-the-clock operation around here

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It is you who deserves our thanks, Petronski. In defending our faith, no one works harder than you.

[Running On Empty]

True—the Pope didn’t call any particular person “defective”.

If he referred to a community of believers, then I see the same and worse has been said by other Confessions regarding the Catholic Church.

In other Confessions, Catholicism (read practicing Catholics) we are considered not merely defective, but blasphemous and satanic and —well, all those other more-than-hyperbole descriptions by other Confessions.

[wagglebee]

It is you who deserves our thanks, Petronski. In defending our faith, no one works harder than you.

I'll second that!

[Petronski]

I’m blessed with the opportunity to do so.

Praise God.

[Running On Empty]

Apologies for the double post.

[trisham]

I am certain that many more agree!

[Petronski]

I’m sure some find it incredibly easy to lie about the Pope, especially those who believe he is the antichrist.

[Petronski]

It was worth saying twice!

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Read your Bibles.

"And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked.

But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it." -- Luke 11:27-28

Christ rebuked and corrected the woman who blessed Mary by saying "Yea, rather blessed are they that hear the word of God and keep it."

Therefore, from Christ's own lips we learn that Mary was not blessed because she was His mother, but because she was a believer.

[big'ol_freeper]

You said: That is a misstatement of Pope Benedict’s words.

Of course it is. In order to justify one’s warped view of the Catholic Church, one has to distort just about everything about the institution one despises.

It is a very sad thing to watch those who think you are doing Christ’s work and all the time they are attacking that which He loves. It is not the physical attacks he suffered at the hands of the Roman Empire, but they continue to crucify Christ by their words and attacks on His Church.

My prayers go out for those who truly wish to love Him, all the while attacking Him. May the Holy Spirit guide them out of their darkness and into the light of the fullness of faith in His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

[trisham]

May the Holy Spirit guide them out of their darkness and into the light of the fullness of faith in His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.

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Amen.

[big'ol_freeper]

blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it." -- Luke 11:27-28

Notice it did not say read the Word. You hear the Word through reading Holy Scripture out loud and through Sacred Tradition, passed on by the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, not through some self-designated magisterical false Biblical interpretation of Holy Scripture.

[Petronski]

Another Calvinist slur, based on ignorance of Greek:

Rather (via Strong's Concordance):

G3304
μενοῦνγε
menounge
men-oon'-geh
From G3303 and G3767 and G1065; so then at least: - nay but, yea doubtless (rather, verily).

I'll paste this, from Haydock's Commentaries:

Luk 11:28 Greek: Menounge, imo vero, yes indeed. Our Saviour does not here wish to deny what the woman had said, but rather to confirm it: indeed how could he deny, as Calvin impiously maintained, that his mother was blessed? By these words, he only wishes to tell his auditors what great advantage they might obtain by attending to his words. For the blessed Virgin, as St. Augustine says, was more happy in having our Saviour in her heart and affections, than in having conceived him in her womb. (Tirinus)

[wagglebee]

Therefore, from Christ's own lips we learn that Mary was not blessed because she was His mother, but because she was a believer.

Of course the Blessed Mother was a believer (the first actually), the Church has NEVER questioned that.

[Petronski]

Christ rebuked and corrected the woman who blessed Mary...

Calvin would have us believe that Gabriel's words at the Annunciation left Jesus quite miffed.