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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: OLD REGGIE
Even so you had to pretend the primary definition never existed and settle on 2b.

Dang! Some protties are so great at mind-reading! Amazing!

2,961 posted on 06/05/2008 8:10:36 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I love all Protestants, and pray that Mary will soften their hearts and open their eyes to the truth)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Even so you had to pretend the primary definition never existed and settle on 2b.

Why do you imagine she "had to pretend" so?

2,962 posted on 06/05/2008 8:11:17 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski; Quix
You said: Is this an architectural facade navigable by radio control?

Could be one of these:


2,963 posted on 06/05/2008 8:12:55 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: netmilsmom

Let’s not forget you insisted on a Vatican source for the “Co-Redemptrix” thing. An article from a Catholic Apologist site is worthless in this environment.


2,964 posted on 06/05/2008 8:14:18 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: netmilsmom; John Leland 1789

I don’t see nor feel a microgram of hate in those words.

Discomfort with a perspective, statement, words does not automatically equal hate.

I don’t discern any hate in John at all toward anyone except maybe the devil.


2,965 posted on 06/05/2008 8:18:35 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: OLD REGGIE
An article from a Catholic Apologist site is worthless in this environment.

Catholics need not apply, in THIS environment.

2,966 posted on 06/05/2008 8:18:43 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Petronski; netmilsmom; Quix; All

Good night, everyone.

Keep us safe, Lord, while we are awake, and guard us as we sleep, so that we can keep watch with Christ and rest in peace.
Now, Master, you let your servant go in peace.
You have fulfilled your promise.
My own eyes have seen your salvation,
which you have prepared in the sight of all peoples.
A light to bring the Gentiles from darkness;
the glory of your people Israel.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit,
as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be,
world without end.
Amen.
Keep us safe, Lord, while we are awake, and guard us as we sleep, so that we can keep watch with Christ and rest in peace.


2,967 posted on 06/05/2008 8:20:16 PM PDT by Judith Anne (I love all Protestants, and pray that Mary will soften their hearts and open their eyes to the truth)
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To: netmilsmom

And actually the Church doesn’t teach co-redeemer anyway so it’s a moot point.

= = =

Not a moot point.

It seems that all the available evidence strongly indicates that it’s just a matter of time until the new dogma gains that status—given the sympathies from the Pope down.


2,968 posted on 06/05/2008 8:21:03 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: netmilsmom; Quix; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; Mr. K; DungeonMaster; John Leland 1789; ...
Did you even read the links Old Reggie gave you? They are from vatican.va.

Pinging a bunch of you to Old Reggie's excellent post #2,907. One would hope this would quell the Catholic nay-sayers, but nothing has yet.

2,969 posted on 06/05/2008 8:21:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Petronski

I used to know an RC once . . . who threw out

“bearing false witness”

at tons of uncomfortable things Prottys were given to post.


2,970 posted on 06/05/2008 8:23:34 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Judith Anne

Hail holy Queen, Mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness, and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve.

To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us. And after this our exile show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary.

Pray for us oh holy mother of God, that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ. Amen.


2,971 posted on 06/05/2008 8:24:46 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Quix

What’s an RC?


2,972 posted on 06/05/2008 8:26:14 PM PDT by Petronski (Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
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To: Petronski; OLD REGGIE; 1000 silverlings; Quix; Marysecretary
The Vatican News Service reports on earthquakes. Do you claim the Catholic Church approves of earthquakes?

Does the Vatican lie about earthquakes??? Does the Vatican deny that earthquakes exist, even as they report on them?

Good grief. When RCs are shown clear evidence the Vatican encourages this "co-redeemer" blasphemy, still it is denied. And I can only presume with a straight face.

It would be funny if it weren't so seriously corrupt.

Last week it was the Vatican astronomer saying something and a dozen Catholics jumped out to say he doesn't speak for the Vatican!

If not for the Vatican, who?!?

Next we'll be told Mickey Mouse does not speak for Disneyland and Hillary does not speak for lesbian socialists.

2,974 posted on 06/05/2008 8:31:38 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: netmilsmom

My Chinese gan baba (God-dad) tested me and I finally found out—I evidently have a genetic skin problem such that if I’m more than 40 min or so on a side—especially sleeping in most other surfaces, my skin starts to ache.

Tempurpedic helps minimize that . . . as did a water bed but that’s too much trouble and the electric heater may cause problems in bodies over time.


2,975 posted on 06/05/2008 8:31:55 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: netmilsmom

I think SAM’S has the best prices on Tempurpedic. Since I sleep in a single bed, I got a king one paycheck and doubled it over.


2,976 posted on 06/05/2008 8:32:35 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Petronski

Prayers for his continued health, for sure.


2,977 posted on 06/05/2008 8:33:13 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: tiki
Would it make you happy if I agreed with you that all Protestants who convert to Catholicism do it for the right reasons and all Catholics who convert to Protestantism do it for flawed reasons?
2,978 posted on 06/05/2008 8:34:17 PM PDT by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Now Silverlings . . . we have to be charitable . . .

trying to apply linear logic to folks unused to it and more wedded to Alice-in-Wonderland-School-Of-Matrix-Theology are used to very elastic ‘logic’ that bounces all over the place and even back and forth between various centuries . . . trying, of course to miss those centuries when the LOFTY GREAT INFALLIBLE SUPREME POLITICAL POWER-MONGER was not quite up to uhhhhh Mary’s standard.


2,979 posted on 06/05/2008 8:35:35 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Petronski; Alex Murphy; alpha-8-25-02; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; ears_to_hear; Forest Keeper; ...

I think that’s an enormous empty straw dog.

It is obvious that given the political currents and forces in the RC edifice from the Pope down, there’s a LOT of sentiment toward establishing it as yet another Mary dogma/doctrine.

I suspect that the END TIMES will scuttle the efforts but otherwise, it would most probably evolve into just the sort of thing Prottys have been talking about and all the RC faithful would be expected to believe it.

From where Prottys sit . . . it’s only a matter of time until yet a new dogma is added to the unchanging dogma of the RC edifice that has existed the last 1600 years—except, of course, in the very flexible calendar of the RC edifice.


2,980 posted on 06/05/2008 8:38:39 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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