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The Worship of Mary? (An Observation)

Posted on 05/30/2008 10:21:34 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Quix
Quite intersting point that you make:
The righteous gold in Scripture is usually quite accessible to the simplest child of good heart.
What vernacular is the OT (or NT) written in?

In that time period what was written by whom? Are those thoughts crude?

What does Scripture intimate about God's thoughts concerning "wisdom" and the "educated"?

You're absolutely correct in your assessment. Let me tell you one thing with certitude:

this is NOT an excercise in intellectual proficiency. I can cite you emminent professors that have major portions of Scripture memorized and don't believe a single word of it.

There is NO way that one can be illuminated by truth without the Holy Spirit's influence; that will NEVER come without asking for it.

1,301 posted on 06/02/2008 8:40:46 PM PDT by raygun (24.14% of the Voting Age Population elected Slick (The Cigar) Willey to a second term.)
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To: Quix
There is also cousin in #1291

NAsbU Colossians 4:10 Aristarchus, my fellow prisoner, sends you his
greetings; and also Barnabas's cousin Mark (about whom you received
instructions; if he comes to you, welcome him);


1,302 posted on 06/02/2008 8:41:27 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Truthteller 2 the first power
Mr. Luther except as a historical figure who broke the tyranny of the Catholic Church and it's murdering ways ( see Foxes Book of Martyrs)

Your post is so confused and ill-conceived that I hardly know what to make of it. So you believe sectarian propaganda to be truth? From what I know, Foxe was the Harold Ickes of his day.

Truth be told, more Catholics where killed in Protestant England than Protestants were killed in Catholic Spain. Probably by an order of magnitude.
1,303 posted on 06/02/2008 8:42:32 PM PDT by Antoninus (John 6:54)
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To: XeniaSt

Amen. How much clearer can that be? Arghh.


1,304 posted on 06/02/2008 8:43:11 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Mad Dawg

The trinity is not extra-Biblical, as if you don’t know that. All three persons in the God-head are clearly identified and established in Scripture. Just because the word doesn’t show up don’t mean the principle ain’t there.

No human can fulfill the sacrifice of Christ. He declared “It is finished!” (or “It is paid in full!” depending on which translation you prefer). All any saint - including Mary - can do is point people to Jesus. Neither she nor anyone else can fulfill what He completed. No one’s salvation depends on Mary or any other earthly priest.

You fail to answer the question I posed, only bringing up peripheral arguments to detract from the issue: Why is Jesus not enough?


1,305 posted on 06/02/2008 8:43:23 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: Petronski

Oh, of COURSE it is...LOL.


1,306 posted on 06/02/2008 8:44:42 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary; Quix
It is clear to those who have eyes to see it is not clear to fence posts

1,307 posted on 06/02/2008 8:44:58 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Marysecretary

>>Amen. How much clearer can that be? Arghh.<<

So when someone calls my adopted sister “your sister” it magically makes us blood relatives?

I do want her skin tone though.


1,308 posted on 06/02/2008 8:45:21 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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To: Marysecretary; wagglebee

Or you can download an Excel file from this page, look for “Read the Bible in a year” near the top of the right column: http://menofhonorministry.org/Discipleship.htm

You can put in start date and it will populate a chronological reading plan for the year for the whole Scripture. I print out each month’s reading and use it as a bookmark.


1,309 posted on 06/02/2008 8:46:14 PM PDT by Manfred the Wonder Dawg (Test ALL things, hold to that which is True.)
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To: netmilsmom

Sorry, but most protestants don’t go for this stuff. Never heard of Stewart.


1,310 posted on 06/02/2008 8:48:56 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Salvation

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.


1,311 posted on 06/02/2008 8:49:28 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Marysecretary
To us the prayer of the saints means believers, not catholic saints, and these prayers came from those on earth.

Right. Your forced interpretation of the past 150-odd years trumps the interpretation that the Catholic Church has understood since, oh, about 100 AD. Got it.
1,312 posted on 06/02/2008 8:49:51 PM PDT by Antoninus (John 6:54)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg
All any saint - including Mary - can do is point people to Jesus.

That is correct. Just like your bible. Your worship sevice. Your concordance. Your AWANA club. The essayists you read. The sermons you listen to. They all lead to Jesus.

1,313 posted on 06/02/2008 8:53:06 PM PDT by LordBridey
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To: netmilsmom

I don’t keep that much track of such things though I agree strongly with you.

The RM would know. He has referred to it in open threads 2-3 times, IIRC.

You might find it quicker doing a search of all his posts the last 3-4 weeks.


1,314 posted on 06/02/2008 8:55:31 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Quix

WHAT is so hard to understand about that scripture? Arggh.


1,315 posted on 06/02/2008 8:56:09 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Petronski

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


1,316 posted on 06/02/2008 8:57:06 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: netmilsmom

Why? So we can get slapped on that one, too? LOL.


1,317 posted on 06/02/2008 9:01:30 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Quix

Lutein.


1,318 posted on 06/02/2008 9:02:08 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Manfred the Wonder Dawg

WHY IS CHRIST NOT ENOUGH? I can’t help but wonder about that myself. It boggles my mind.


1,319 posted on 06/02/2008 9:03:55 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: Marysecretary

>>Why? So we can get slapped on that one, too? LOL.<<

Didn’t Christ command that you do that?


1,320 posted on 06/02/2008 9:04:33 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ironmom. (but really made from Gold plated titanium))
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